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on Dec 1, 2020 15:25:38 GMT
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The recent, rather dubious, release of cameras named the MF1 and MF2 Super made me revisit the original MF series. Here are the three cameras - 35 MF, MF-1 and MF-2. It's not often you can see all three together. 35MF_MF-1_MF-2They get increasingly basic as you move from left to right but the lenses are good and within the limitations of the respective cameras, there's no reason not to take some good photos. However, given the option I'd avoid the MF-2 as it is very basic - 1 shutter speed (1:125 sec), 2 ASA speeds (100, 400) and a flash option.
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on Dec 2, 2020 10:16:01 GMT
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Nice to see them all in a group portrait. You can add the Yashica Diary and Yashica Flasher to the family too.
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on Dec 2, 2020 17:29:12 GMT
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Thanks for the pictures. There are a lot of similar rangefinder "series" of cameras that dropped features over time -- to compete with the SLR market -- by providing less expensive rangefinder cameras. In some ways it's odd because there are a lot of rangefinder cameras that added features -- in order to compete with the SLR market, early-on. The other interesting note is that many cameras that turned into series camera started out with a single number or letter and then had to add on a number or letter for later, more advanced cameras. The Nikon F becomes the Nikon F2. There was no F1. The Minolta Cable Release evolved into the Minolta Cable Release II. Occasionally, you will see a "X1" or "F1", but that is not the norm. Here we see an MF, and MF-1, and an MF-2. Just another item to ponder, I guess. Why was the MF-1 not labeled the MF-2?
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on Dec 2, 2020 18:45:14 GMT
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... Why was the MF-1 not labeled the MF-2???? The same thing that occured with all the single digit FR's and FX's might apply to the MF's... where there were 2 or more models designed for release at nearly the same time (to be sold concurrently over a number of years), and they also had slightly different feature sets and price points. The exception might be the FX-7/FX-70, and the FX-3 models. There was a 4 year gap in release dates on them (1979 vs 1975), so they were more likely to be evolutionary updates or outright replacements than co-designed with their earlier siblings. The Yashica SLR models listed inside the retailer ads in Popular Photography from 1984 had the FX-D and FX-3 (and occasionally, the FX-7/70) as the only remaining FX models being sold at the time. The FX 103/107/108/etc., all came later and definitely were new model cameras. More on the MF series... My camera list has 9 Yashica "MF" models, including some combo kits and some 'Super' models (w/ date back?), and one model that I'm honestly not sure if it's correct, or even exists... the Yashica 35 MF-S. There's nothing conclusive in a quick online search on it's existence, so I'll do some more digging to find out where it came from, and why I included it. Does anyone actually have a Yashica MF-S or is aware of them?
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on Dec 2, 2020 22:06:01 GMT
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... Why was the MF-1 not labeled the MF-2? The same thing that occured with all the single digit FR's and FX's might apply to the MF's... where there were 2 or more models designed for release at nearly the same time (to be sold concurrently over a number of years), and they also had slightly different feature sets and price points. The exception might be the FX-7/FX-70, and the FX-3 models. There was a 4 year gap in release dates on them (1979 vs 1975), so they were more likely to be evolutionary updates or outright replacements than co-designed with their earlier siblings. The Yashica SLR models listed inside the retailer ads in Popular Photography from 1984 had the FX-D and FX-3 (and occasionally, the FX-7/70) as the only remaining FX models being sold at the time. The FX 103/107/108/etc., all came later and definitely were new model cameras. More on the MF series... My camera list has 9 Yashica "MF" models, including some combo kits and some 'Super' models (w/ date back?), and one model that I'm honestly not sure if it's correct, or even exists... the Yashica 35 MF-S. There's nothing conclusive in a quick online search on it's existence, so I'll do some more digging to find out where it came from, and why I included it. Does anyone actually have a Yashica MF-S or is aware of them? I've never heard of the MF-S - I wonder if the S was another 'Super' variant though the only MF with a Super in its name I have come across is the new MF-2 Super. Perhaps it might have been one of Yashica's models for exclusive sale in Japan? Incidentally, concerning your superb list of Contax & Yashica cameras, I have a teensy issue with the production date for the Preview as I was using one in Romania in 1981; it had the non-standard production issue of a silver Polaroid back instead of the normal black one. I received mine directly from Yashica, Hamburg although I no longer have the paperwork so can't confirm the date of receipt.
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on Dec 3, 2020 16:16:47 GMT
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This may not help with the search for the MF-S, but in several instances, cameras appear on the WEB with the incorrect name due to over-stylized writing on the camera. The perfect is the Konica EYE, often listed as the Konica CYC -- the dots in the "E" are easy to miss, and make the "EYE" look like "CYC" instead. Also marketed as the Wards EYE -- and sometimes listed as the Wards CYC.
Another example, are the Fuji-named lenses "Rectar" -- after many well-known German lenses by Steinheil -- which the uninformed sometimes list as "Rectsr" (because the "a" kinda, sorta, looked like an "s").
I could go on, but maybe the same sort of thing is happening with the MF-S. Maybe is is really MF-5.
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on Dec 4, 2020 9:47:12 GMT
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Th Konica Eye is a lovely little half frame with a decent, fast lens. I picked one up in a charity shop a few years back and put a couple of rolls through it, very enjoyable.
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on Dec 4, 2020 14:10:24 GMT
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The Soviets like the Konica EYE so much that they copied it -- kinda, sorta -- and created the FED Micron. It came in four or five flavors:
The Soviets copied several German and Japanese cameras. Makes me wonder if the Ruskies ever copied a Yashica camera -- or two. Probably.
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on Dec 7, 2020 19:50:48 GMT
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biggles3 ... That was my initial thought as well, that the "S" might refer to Super, and the possibility that there's no actual "S" model, and it was just a common user reference that wasn't anything official. This leads me to the origin of the model data that I've pretty much relied upon as the basis for every model detailed in my published web lists, for most models up until 1993. The primary list I have supposedly came from Yashica's own corporate sales department, and was sent to either a US distributor's sales rep or a US retailer's sales manager after they requested a model lineup to cover everything they'd produced prior to the request. The list they sent included model names/numbers, and beginning and ending dates, with no other details. That list did include 'kits' or special promotional bundles available via retail outlets over the same time period, and not just the base models. I don't have a photocopy of the letter and list, and only have the details -as posted online - by the receiver of the document. The mystery MF-S model is in that same list, and that's why I also have it on the site - complete with it's detailed start and end date. It isn't likely to be the only one that may or may not exist as an actual camera or kit, as I've suspected of a couple of others over the years as I've been tracking them down. When these don't pop up during a deeper search, it makes it difficult to leave them in the list, but I'm in a 'between a rock and a hard place' without having first-hand knowledge to make corrections to reflect 100% accuracy. I think that's an almost impossible task. Which leads to your dating of the Preview model. At least the first model is in that same list, where it too has a year/month release date - which is out of sync. I don't have any reason to think you aren't 100% correct, and unfortunately I have no way of finding out why the dates wouldn't match. I've tried contacting the original receiver of the list to ask about it (and other issues), but have gotten no responses. It could be that the dates are tied to US release dates, and that those may not always coincide with the dates tied from other regions, but that's just a best-guess. For the most part, the details have matched up pretty well, but it's obviously not perfect, as-is. I just try to be as accuarate as possible, given the limitations.
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on Dec 7, 2020 21:54:36 GMT
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lumiworx - it can certainly get complicated when it comes to territory-specific or territory-restricted items appearing in trade information. For example, I understand the Yashica FX-A was never sold in Japan but there was a purchase of most of the very limited production run by government agencies in the US. However, most of the remaining models made it to Europe but although I have Kyocera's own European trade listings from the mid-1980s to 2005, there's never any mention of the model. And I'm still looking for a user manual.... Yashica handed me a Zeiss 600mm f4 but that lens never appeared on their lists. Indeed a number of Zeiss' common lenses were no longer being made available to Europe in the 1990s even though they were being manufactured there. And I don't know if you have, but I've yet to see any trade literature from Yashica on the Contax RTS Fundus/Scientific or the various CGCM models. The information's out there somewhere as people/companies bought and used them - but how did they find them? It's fun knowing the picture's far from complete - and frustrating. But thank you for all the knowledge you continue to share. Oh yes, back to the MF family: I've just spotted a MF-3 being sold - I'd assumed that it was a post-Kyocera era model like the MF-2 Super but I see it carries Kyocera's logo.
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on Dec 9, 2020 10:48:57 GMT
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The Brazilian web site used to claim it was .... "The first exclusive model for Brazil. 1.2 million units produced". I have always wondered about the "exclusive" part of that statement! They did however produce a couple of odd ones ... the Carnaval Rio and a nice Yellow one. As is usual for Yashica, they like their colour variants ...... (sorry for poor image quality!) ......
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on Dec 15, 2020 12:33:54 GMT
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... And I don't know if you have, but I've yet to see any trade literature from Yashica on the Contax RTS Fundus/Scientific or the various CGCM models. The information's out there somewhere as people/companies bought and used them - but how did they find them? I have a feeling that the model specific info for the CGCM film bodies are likely to be found in much the same way that the M35 bodies are (links from the topic on microscope cameras)... as individual 'accessory' sections of the parent machine's operating manuals, and within the brochures and dealer inserts belonging to the scientific and medical equipment distributors that sold such specialised equipment. I think these were never treated as photographic gear, but purely medical and scientific, and were sold exclusively by medical equipment dealers in the same way that the Dental Eye and Oral Eye kits were. They were lilely to have been sold as if they were Zeiss products without branding for the CGCM's (since they may have been contract-specific models, sold direct to the military). If these were only sold to the military, then I doubt we'll ever see any promotional stuff at all, and manuals would probably be in 3-ring binders and not something you'll find on their own in a flea market. The Scientific/Medical Fundus models were value-added models of regular production bodies, so the Contax branding was probably left as-is for the high-end name recognition. Just a guess, but I would think the manuals for the Fundus bodies were the same ones included with a regular RTS, but with an addendum sheet to cover the raised lip on the trigger, and the lock-out button. As the only two features that made them any different from the base model, they didn't really require a complete rewrite of the manual to be accurate for instructions on use. Other than the smattering of pages that either you or I have posted or participated in - on this forum, or other sites - I've found mentions of both types on only one other site, where there's scarce details on either one. It does however offer something that's been lacking this far - that there's a tie-in to the Swedish military (like the Contax SA) for the CGCM body types, and that the Fundus has a connection to Zeiss Ophthalmic equipment. I too have a CGCM, but slightly different from yours, and it too may be a military model, and not a retail product. I'll have to take a few shots to post what I have. A new Zeiss Fundus digital camera: www.zeiss.com/meditec/us/products/ophthalmology-optometry/retina/diagnostics/fundus-imaging/clarus-500.htmlA Zeiss Slit Lamp Beam Splitter attachment to adapt a camera to eye testing gear: www.digitaleyecenter.com/product/slit-lamp-camera-adapter-kit-dec-z120v/
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on Nov 30, 2021 15:08:47 GMT
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This is the Yashica Flasher, looking very like the Yashica MF-1. Yashica FlasherIndeed, it sports the same 38mm f2.8 Yashica lens as the MF-1, constructed from 4 elements in 3 groups. Manufactured in Hong Kong in 1978 alongside the Snap and Diary cameras, it is very easy to use. The camera won't function until the flash is raised as it acts as a shutter-lock in its retracted position. The CdS meter and flash are powered by two AA batteries. Like many of these P&S models, operation is automated. Focusing is done manually, using zone symbols which are visible on the top part of the lens. Interestingly, on the underside of the focusing ring is a full distance scale in both feet and metres. Aperture values are shown in the viewfinder along with the meter's needle. The camera also has a self-timer.
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on Dec 1, 2021 16:33:54 GMT
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This is the Yashica Flasher, looking very like the Yashica MF-1. --- Manufactured in Hong Kong in 1978 alongside the Snap and Diary cameras, it is very easy to use. The camera won't function until the flash is raised as it acts as a shutter-lock in its retracted position. --- Intriguing concept with the Flasher's lock-out function. So if the flash is opened under bright noon-day sun conditions - and presumably armed to fire - will it always go off as a sort of fill-flash, or does metering come back into play and only triggers it to fire when needed? Given the CdS cell is on the lens I'm thinking it may not use TTL, but then again, Yashica engineers were fond of breaking new ground too, so I'm wondering how everything gets calculated.
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on Jan 14, 2022 12:24:10 GMT
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From the same MF family comes this Yashica Diary. Yashica DiaryIt features that same 38mm f2.8 Yashica lens and automated exposure. With this camera, it will take photos with the flash in its retracted position as the camera is live as soon as the two AA batteries are placed inside it; the meter's needle responds immediately. As long as there is sufficient light, the shutter can be activated. If light is insufficient for photography, a red LED appears in the viewfinder and the shutter is deactivated until you raise the flash. Simple but effective under many shooting conditions. Where the Diary differs is its ability to imprint dates on the film without needing a date-back. The two dials on the front allow you to add the date and the large switch on the top plate is to open or close the date function. Behind the switch is the orange LED which confirms the readiness of the flash. As with this range of models, zone focusing is used.
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