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on Feb 11, 2020 0:04:18 GMT
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I've adapted medium format lenses (Zenza Bronica) to Nikon F, and then on to digital Sony E mount from there. I already had the lenses first, before any wish/need to adapt them to anything else, so it wasn't a big cost outlay to buy an adapter to try it out. I ran across a Hartblei adapter that allows for Zeiss Hasselblad V lenses to be directly adapted to C/Y mount bodies - which could also be further adaptable to Sony E with a secondary adapter - so the setup would fit in well with the gear I use most often. There's no comparable adapter for any other medium format lenses to C/Y without stacking that I'm aware of. I'm happy with the results I get with the Bronica glass, but there's no way to translate the ETR mount into C/Y mount and then use them with a Yashica/Contax film body. The Zeiss/Hasselblad V lenses would offer that option with one of these adapters, but there are some considerations to address first, and I don't know if I'd be any better off than where I am know. For arguments sake, consider that I'm comparing every Yashica ML ever made, and the usual Zeiss T* versions from 18mm to 80-200mm zooms, and not the esoteric 'super speeds' like a Distagon 35mm f/1.4 or the Mirrotars. There just aren't any approximations to those in V-Mounts anyway. - Is there a noticible difference in the quality of the Hasselblad Zeiss lenses over the best of the C/Y Yashica and Zeiss glass I'd have now?
- Bronica glass can get pretty heavy (2 1/2 pounds for the 100-220mm), so is there an upside with V-Mount weight versus the quality I'd get, as opposed to just using the C/Y glass?
- How does the character of V-Mount lenses compare to an ML or T* lens?
- Has anyone tried this before, and are there downsides or big pluses?
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on Feb 11, 2020 11:19:30 GMT
Posted: Feb 11, 2020 11:19:30 GMT
The good news is that Contax and Zeiss had already recognised the value of allowing Hasselblad's Zeiss lenses to be used on the RTS back in 1975 and produced an adapter (Hassel-CX) which appeared in their first brochure. Looking at the Hartblei version, it should do the job nicely.
I only ever used two Hasselblad lenses on my RTS - the UV-Sonnar 104 f4.3 and the S-Planar T* 120mm f5.6 (the late version that ran to f45). The UV-Sonnar can not be compared with any of the Contax Zeiss or Yashica lenses but the S-Planar has the same optical configuration as the C/Y S-Planar 60mm f2.8 and both benefit from T* coatings. It's worth remembering that almost all the black Hasselblad lenses feature T* but only a few of the later chrome-satin ones were multi-coated and carried the familiar red T* emblem. The coatings help to provide a match in colour rendition and contrast with the Zeiss Contax lenses.
Is the extra bulk and weight worth it? In most cases not as the Contax Zeiss lenses are optimised for the 35mm format but the benefit of using a medium format lens on a 35mm body is that you end up using its sweet spot. If you are going to produce very large images, the resolving power of the V-series can be a bonus but in general, when using 35mm film, you won't notice the difference. I only used the Hasselblad S-Planar because I needed to be free to go beyond f22 which was the smallest aperture allowed by the C/Y lens.
Back in the late 1970s and early 1980s I knew quite a few 'togs that were Hasselblad users and adopted the RTS (and Yashica FR1) for the benefits of their electronic shutters and higher shutter speeds but for pleasure rather than professionally. Although Zeiss benefited either way, the adapter was produced to encourage Hasselblad users to try the RTS rather than persuade RTS users to buy Hasselblad Zeiss lenses. If you have a wide selection of C/Y Zeiss or Yashica ML focal lengths, it would not be worth the cost of buying V-series lenses as you are unlikely to see a major uplift in image quality (particularly when compared with the C/Y Zeiss glass).
However, if you already have a Hasselblad 6x6 camera, such as any of the 500 series, and a few lenses, you can really enjoy seeing the quality of some of Zeiss' finest glass but, even better, now on a variety of film and digital formats.
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on Feb 12, 2020 2:07:56 GMT
Posted: Feb 12, 2020 2:07:56 GMT
Thanks for the great input biggles3 ... I did do some window shopping earlier and found that there's also a Kindai adapter to accomplish the same V-Mount to C/Y task - and it's considerably cheaper than the Hartblei. If I had the lenses on hand it would certainly be worth $43.59 to explore it, but I had a hunch that it would come down to the same scenario as it was with the Bronica lenses. It's cheap to ask the questions before opening a wallet to experiment. You mentioning the color and contrast matches was exactly what piqued my interest, plus the thought that there might be something possible in lens character that otherwise would not have been possible. The other obvious stumbling block might not be in the technical realm, but the finacial one. Researching prices on V-Mount glass makes it pretty apparent that the results would really have to warrant the overall investment to even consider jumping off that bridge.
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