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on Mar 17, 2019 2:19:19 GMT
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on Mar 17, 2019 2:47:36 GMT
Posted: Mar 17, 2019 2:47:36 GMT
Welcome to the Forum, Tom. For uploading to the Forum, the best way is to click on the curved arrow on your photo page, and that will bring up a window with selections of how you want to share the image.
Choose BB Code, then what size you want (a medium size of 800x600 is just about perfect), then right click on the line of code to Copy it.
Then when you place your pointer in the message block on the Forum, you right click again, and Paste.
Next, while the code is showing, look for the two back-to-back URL's (...url][url...), and put a line break between them, for example: (...url]
[url...). That ensures your Title line is complete under the photo, instead of part of it being on the side.
You'll find lots of information here in the Lens sub-forum on the ML line, including performance tests by our members, along with comparisons to other lenses such as the Zeiss lenses for the Contax SLRs, which share a mount with Yashica.
PF
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on Mar 17, 2019 19:31:31 GMT
Posted: Mar 17, 2019 19:31:31 GMT
woolworth2019 ... Welcome & thanks for posting your interesting find. After seeing this, and another similar surprise in a post on a DSB 38-90mm - I'm wondering about the transition period while there were concurrent versions for DSB (and their US branded YUS line) and the ML series. Clearly there was a lot going on with Yashica at the time, as they'd just started their partnership with Zeiss, acquired Tomioka Optical, and rolled out a rather full range of both internally produced bodies and lenses... plus, what appears to me, to be a fair number of re-skinned and re-branded 3rd party zoom lenses. This 80-200 seems to be an early ML model that uses the diamond-patterned grip and silver-edged (i.e., unfinished/unpainted) barrel rings like those seen on the earlier DSB lenses. I have a ML 28mm f/2.8 and a ML 200mm f/4 (#5 in the photo), and both are outfitted with the DSB grips and rings - and I've also seen quite a few others in different focal lengths and types. Then there's the odd rectangular-ish mask in front of the middle optical block, like the 38-90mm DSB, and the Sun Optical zooms. It certainly is 'more robust' than the later version. There was no 80-200mm in a DSB version to get updated to the ML line, unless it was a re-worked 75-200mm f/3.9. Maybe Yashica was in a growth spurt they couldn't handle, or there was a mountain of excess inventory in DSB parts they had to use up. Aside from my rambling... I'm curious about what kind of images you're getting with the lens.
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on Mar 22, 2019 13:04:31 GMT
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on Mar 22, 2019 22:38:29 GMT
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It's interesting how things evolve over time when you see the little glimpses left behind in the paper trail. Specs comparison... | Shown in... | Composition (el/grps) | View Angle | Min. Focus (m/f) | Apertures | Size (mm) | Weight (g) | Filter (mm) | Hood | Case | | 1987 Dealer Catalog | 12 - 9 | 30°-12°20' | 1.9 / 6.3 | f/4-f/22 | 65 x 133 | 610 | 55 | 57mm slip-on | 70B-2 | | Your brochure | 15 - 11 | 31°-12° | 2.5 / 8 | f/4-f/22 | 76 x 176 | 1110 | 62 | 65mm slip-on | n/a |
My 80-200 seems to match the 1987 catalog info - w/ serial number in the A750xxxx range - which I would assume has the highest production numbers overall. I notice a couple of things that seem odd for a sales brochure... - In the bullet points on the front page: "Specifications and exterior design subject to change without prior notice."
- The terms "Scheduled/Geplant/Envisagé/Proyectado" under the mystery 400mm.
I don't ever recall seeing any kinds of 'qualifiers' about design changes in other literature, but then I don't really have many to compare to. I do find it strange that a camera/lens company in the 1980's would print up anything as a marketing aid about their current line-up, and then toss in a teaser to a prototype and only say it's been scheduled/planned for release.
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on Mar 22, 2019 22:49:40 GMT
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on Mar 23, 2019 13:58:18 GMT
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"... but apparently never came to market" is the correct translation  . I am the author of all these yashica-ML details at olypedia.de, and I'm very glad to see that this huge 80-200mm zoom lens is not a rumor, it really exists. Unfortunately, this also means that my Yashica-ML-lens collection is not complete ... |
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on Mar 23, 2019 22:28:07 GMT
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I am the author of all these yashica-ML details at olypedia.de, and I'm very glad to see that this huge 80-200mm zoom lens is not a rumor, it really exists. Unfortunately, this also means that my Yashica-ML-lens collection is not complete ... ;)
Sorry, I missed inserting that... Now I'm all the more curious about the images this 80-200 can create [hint, hint :) ]- and - again wondering on the Yashica production numbers on the rarest lenses during the period. A few of the rarer ones that I'm interested in show up on ebay from time to time, and I've been able to add a few to those I already own. Although there are no actual production totals that I'm aware of, I can only presume that the few that are out in public hands are lenses that were released as part of a production batch - at least in small numbers. Is it possible that there might be prototypes, field testing samples, or even pre-production dealer models, that have somehow found there way into Average Joe's hands? I remember reading there are examples of some Leica and Zeiss prototypes plus some early run samples in private hands, but I've never read/heard of anything similar from Yashica's lens lineup making it to the outside world. |
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on Apr 1, 2019 23:58:24 GMT
Posted: Apr 1, 2019 23:58:24 GMT
Anybody takes some pictures yet with this lens?
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on Apr 6, 2019 9:54:52 GMT
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Oh no! I've thought, my ML 70-210 F4 is rare these days, but i've never seen THIS Lens, it does look weird. Diamond Grip Pattern like 1st gen ML Lenses, the Front Element Design is very strange, and it does look for sure like a mixed zombie made from a Yashica ML & DSB Zoom Lenses Part...weird! I do own also the usual ML 80-200/F4 Yashica, but that's the usual design with 55mm Filterthread & smaller Size (not ~1kg) like my 70-210 F4 ML
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