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on Jul 30, 2018 0:30:45 GMT
Posted: Jul 30, 2018 0:30:45 GMT
I just saw this mentioned as a news blurb, and wasn't aware that it was even a rumor. Nikon has announced they're coming back to mirrorless cameras - but - with Full Frame models. It's not a rehash of the Nikon 1 series of cropped sensors, but a full-on assault to a pro-level set of bodies and lenses (w/ new mount, but backwards adaptable) to take on Sony's A7 line.
I'm not suggesting that anyone go jump on Nikon's bandwagon, but almost the opposite. With yet another avenue opening up for using adaptable legacy lenses, I'm wondering if there might be a small (or large) gear rush in acquiring whatever there is - and at even higher prices than they're going for now. I would imagine that many users will gravitate towards better quality lenses of both Yashica and Contax brands. I'm not thinking there would be a stampede for legacy glass, but it might not be a bad idea to grab what you've been wanting before the prices start upward. Am I drinking the koolaid, or could there be an uptick or a frenzy in buying?
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on Jul 31, 2018 3:04:17 GMT
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Well, first off, the only adapter Nikon will be making is for their own F mount lenses. It may be a while before anyone builds an adapter for other lenses to fit the new Z mount. Then when you consider all the adapters made for Sony cameras, folks have already bought up most of the lenses they want, though there would always be an initial surge from those just getting into photography, and the usual early adopters of new technology. But I feel most who have gone through this before will be willing to sit on the backstop a while longer till all the bugs are worked out of the system.
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on Jul 31, 2018 15:39:27 GMT
Last Edit: Jul 31, 2018 16:08:53 GMT by lumiworx
I'm sure you're right about what will be available initially for adapters, and only released by Nikon. My instincts tell me that it/they will be pricey gadgets from the outset, and won't drop much in price for years. I'd expect to see a raft of new 3rd party adapters within 1-2 months, with more than a fair share of those being cheap knockoffs from China. Those, I suspect, will be closely followed by other adapters for all the 'usual' non-F mount lenses in 3-4 months.
I'm also thinking along the same lines as you, that there might not be a big surge. The exception might be the one market segment that Nikon wants to either bring back 'into the fold' or to keep others from jumping ship - the pro photographers. Many of them reluctantly switched to Sony. I think they were frustrated with the slow pace of advancements from Nikon, but at least they knew they wouldn't have to totally abandon their investments in glass to make the switch. Knowing they could adapt them made it marginally easier, but not painless. They wouldn't have full-on AF functionality on Sony bodies, but with the recent introduction of 'smart' adapters, it might make any future migrations more palatable, and Nikon wants to plug that leak and keep from loosing even more pro users.
It's possible it might entice pros who'd choose to return - along with those still under the Nikon spell - that they can expand their lens repertoire with non-Nikon lenses. There was no avenue for legacy lenses on any F-Mount camera without severe degradation due to the added glass needed for infinity focus. That would be more than enough to keep the pros from using that route. Presumably that issue will disappear with a full size Nikon mirrorless body, just as it did with A7's. Then again, they might be happy to reuse what they have, or buy something in the new mount, without giving legacy stuff a second thought.
No matter what it brings about, if anything, I'm not really in need of lenses from the Yashica/Contax camp - but - I'd still love to find a Distagon 21mm (or 16mm) that I could afford, and if I happened upon a Planar 85mm f/1.4 at a great price... I'd certainly be tempted. If nothing else, I'm happy to be sitting with the roster of glass I have now if everything went sky high.
And I'm now wondering if there might be another type of fallout from all this. Sony users who jump, or jump back, may decide to dump their Sony's - whether they are pros or not. I wouldn't mind seeing a flood of nice A7/A7r/A7s bodies popping up at cheap prices.
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on Aug 1, 2018 2:04:37 GMT
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"And I'm now wondering if there might be another type of fallout from all this. Sony users who jump, or jump back, may decide to dump their Sony's - whether they are pros or not. I wouldn't mind seeing a flood of nice A7/A7r/A7s bodies popping up at cheap prices." lumiworx
One can always hope.
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on Aug 10, 2018 15:13:35 GMT
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Prices for vintage lenses may rise, but I don't think they will rise that much. Also, you never know which vintage lens will skyrocket in price. It's usually one that gets a good review from a famous youtuber or a review site. The best time to buy something is when you need it.  |
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on Dec 30, 2018 11:35:17 GMT
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I can only speak for Zeiss/Contax lenses but they are definitely on the up and have been for a while which is what prompted me to buy some about 18 months ago - something I've promised myself since buying my first Contax in 1981. The prices of Contax lenses fell after Kyocera pulled the plug and then stayed pretty static for a long time, but now they are rising. Driven, in part, I think by sellers often asking stupid prices. The lenses usually don't sell but if buyers are exposed to higher prices long enough then, I guess, eventually they start paying higher prices. The Sony A7 series has also been partly responsible for sure and any new mirrorless entries to the market are going to add momentum but I wouldn't think, on their own, are going to make a sudden difference. There's also a resurgence of interest in film cameras that must also be having an effect. You only have to look at the humble FX-3. A few years ago you could hardly give them away but now they are fetching good money - the later examples especially. Though, again, there is an element of sellers asking stupid prices. It is still possible to find good deals. I've bought lenses from local dealers at prices lower than ebay. I've also bought from Japan which has been cheaper than buying in Europe even with the VAT and import duty that we, in the UK, have to pay on Japanese imports. I think now is a good time to buy if you've always been hankering after something special. if I happened upon a Planar 85mm f/1.4 at a great price... I'd certainly be tempted Not so long ago, the going rate for a 85/1.4 was £300 in the UK. I had one. You would be lucky to find one now, anywhere in the world, for under £400. Just one example of the way things are going. |
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on Feb 4, 2019 15:40:15 GMT
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I do agree about the effect of the film resurgence lots of new entrants to our hobby theses days. Canon FD lenses seem to be among the most effected due to the (strange) popularity of the AE-1. I wish I still had my old FD collection to sell!
I can also see Pentax M bodies starting to get pricier. Rightly too as, IMHO, the ME Super & Program A & Super A are better than any Canon A-Series SLR outside of the A-1.
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