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on Jun 15, 2024 5:47:42 GMT
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Hello, Yashica masters! I would like to share a new way (as far as I can tell) to fix the famous POD of Death issue. It happened to my lovely GT too. I watched and read as much as I could about how people solve this. I tried it without much success. My hands are not dexterous enough to do such delicate work. I just couldn't fit a tiny thing with some glue under that little shelf and keep it there. I dropped a couple of foam strips into the belly of the camera, which might come back as a problem down the road. I decided to think of something new. And this is what I came up with, and I think it works. After I finished, the camera started taking the appropriate shutter speed shots, and the desirable "cluck" sound started to be heard. Instead of a pad, I created a sort of a bracket/brace out of a paper clip. And I just forced it onto the metal pushy thingy. It sits there securely and does its job. The only problem with this method is that if you drop this bracket/brace into the camera and leave it there, it might cause some serious mechanical damage. So hold it securely with pliers while forcing it into place. I hope you find it useful.  20240614_222512 by Andrei Rabo, on Flickr  PADofD2 by Andrei Rabo, on Flickr  PADofD3 by Andrei Rabo, on Flickr  20240614_231805 by Andrei Rabo, on Flickr |
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on Jun 18, 2024 14:12:54 GMT
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Nice idea, especially if it works, thanks for sharing it!  At some point I thought about something similar, but using a hard-plastic-covered wire, just to avoid the metal against metal action and the noise. So, instead of using a wire, I ended up using a computer jumper, since it has a metallic structure inside and a nice layer of plastic on the outside, it works great, but no way to avoid the noise unless something softer like rubber is used. |
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on Jun 18, 2024 17:02:31 GMT
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I seem to remember reading quite some time ago that the pad was likely an engineering decision to accomplish a couple of things. Contraction/expansion affected the travel distance of permanently linked actuators which screwed with precision, so they needed dampening as well as a flexible material to gracefully adjust its travel, and to nullify the noise of thunking metal on metal, and to also counter the damage of otherwise whacking them together constantly.
I suspect their primary reason was more for noise control than anything. Their high-end competitor on first release was the near/silent M2/M3 Leica Rangefinders, and the pending release of the M4, 9 months after the Electro 35's introduction in February of 1966. I've always thought that Yashica (well, pre Kyocera anyway) tried to aim for being a budget alternative to Leica. I can only attest to the sound of my still-working IIIc, and it is absolutely silent at shutter firings.
If you consider that a 1970 GT is still capable of humming along in 2024, I'd think that any fix is a good one when the goal is to keep them ticking. Bravo on finding another workable solution and sharing it.
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on Jun 18, 2024 17:16:14 GMT
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Nice idea, especially if it works, thanks for sharing it! At some point I thought about something similar, but using a hard-plastic-covered wire, just to avoid the metal against metal action and the noise. So, instead of using a wire, I ended up using a computer jumper, since it has a metallic structure inside and a nice layer of plastic on the outside, it works great, but no way to avoid the noise unless something softer like rubber is used. I just tested it with a roll of HP5+ and everything worked perfectly fine. No noise, or it was drowned in the cicadas' shrill. But, anyway, I like some mechanical sounds of film cameras. I also thought about metal to metal possible electric problem, but it seems to be not an issue whatsoever. Using a computer jumper is a great idea! ![]() |
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on Jun 18, 2024 17:37:46 GMT
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I seem to remember reading quite some time ago that the pad was likely an engineering decision to accomplish a couple of things. Contraction/expansion affected the travel distance of permanently linked actuators which screwed with precision, so they needed dampening as well as a flexible material to gracefully adjust its travel, and to nullify the noise of thunking metal on metal, and to also counter the damage of otherwise whacking them together constantly. I suspect their primary reason was more for noise control than anything. Their high-end competitor on first release was the near/silent M2/M3 Leica Rangefinders, and the pending release of the M4, 9 months after the Electro 35's introduction in February of 1966. I've always thought that Yashica (well, pre Kyocera anyway) tried to aim for being a budget alternative to Leica. I can only attest to the sound of my still-working IIIc, and it is absolutely silent at shutter firings. If you consider that a 1970 GT is still capable of humming along in 2024, I'd think that any fix is a good one when the goal is to keep them ticking. Bravo on finding another workable solution and sharing it. Interesting goal. I've never thought of it. Rangefinders are new things to me, and I actually miss that satisfying "sh-clunk" of, let's say, Nikon F and other SLRs. But as I shoot more with my newly acquired GT, GSN and Lynx 100, I started liking them more and more. |
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on Jun 18, 2024 22:45:40 GMT
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To compare sounds to Leica cameras, here's a YT video with someone firing off the entire M series film cameras at very close range...
If you are a few feet away, I think most would miss that anyone was actually operating a camera. It was one of their main selling points for photojournalists.
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