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on May 5, 2023 17:41:48 GMT
Posted: May 5, 2023 17:41:48 GMT
I've just read an article that states that lawsuits are a possibility for users of previous version users of Adobe's graphics software... including PhotoShop and Premiere. Apparently they have already started sending out letters to licensees stating that they are required to upgrade to current versions or stop using any/all 'classic' versions that are now unlicensed. www.vice.com/en/article/a3xk3p/adobe-tells-users-they-can-get-sued-for-using-old-versions-of-photoshopThis particular article doesn't give specific details on which version are affected, nor the license level that triggers anyone's susceptibility to be sued, so if anyone has that kind of info - or has received a letter - please do post any updates you might become aware of. I stopped updating at PS CS2 and LR v5.7, and for now I'm assuming that at no later time was I forced to agree to any license modifications beyond those in effect on the final released version... via the then-current structure. I'm pig headed enough that I'll continue using it, regardless of their demands, so maybe I'll end up in court. |
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on May 6, 2023 9:37:18 GMT
Posted: May 6, 2023 9:37:18 GMT
I've just read an article that states that lawsuits are a possibility for users of previous version users of Adobe's graphics software... including PhotoShop and Premiere. Apparently they have already started sending out letters to licensees stating that they are required to upgrade to current versions or stop using any/all 'classic' versions that are now unlicensed. www.vice.com/en/article/a3xk3p/adobe-tells-users-they-can-get-sued-for-using-old-versions-of-photoshopThis particular article doesn't give specific details on which version are affected, nor the license level that triggers anyone's susceptibility to be sued, so if anyone has that kind of info - or has received a letter - please do post any updates you might become aware of. I stopped updating at PS CS2 and LR v5.7, and for now I'm assuming that at no later time was I forced to agree to any license modifications beyond those in effect on the final released version... via the then-current structure. I'm pig headed enough that I'll continue using it, regardless of their demands, so maybe I'll end up in court. Some of my photographic chums laugh at me because I refuse to use the Cloud for anything and will not use any recent Adobe software. The moment Adobe switched to subscription services, that was the end of my interest as looking at the fine print, it became apparent that you have fewer rights than an 'owner' of a purchased program. It also had the potential to leave you having to pay higher and higher subscription fees once you had adopted their software and adapted your work to use it; you became locked-in to a one-way commercial relationship. That said, there's no doubting the quality of their software and it's easy to understand why so many pros use it. And access to the Cloud is not without occasional interruptions; if Russia gets backed into a corner over its invasion of Ukraine, we can expect more cable-cutting by their navy and as the Cloud actually exists through cable-networks on the ocean floors, significant losses of both data and access may be forthcoming. So, this Luddite will continue to use encrypted external storage in lieu of the Cloud and Corel's Paint Shop Pro as my principal post-production software - I don't always update to the next version (PSP gets a major upgrade every year plus regular updates) as often the key functions I use don't change that much but for now at least, when you buy the program, you own it. I also use Capture One, Flexcolor and Phocus for some medium format work. Sadly, you can't help feeling that Adobe's management is composed entirely of accountants and lawyers; I'm pretty sure that the concept of subscription-only services did not come from the photographic community. Still, looking for a silver lining, if you have shares in Adobe's parent company, you might be able to offset some of the subscription and revised license charges with the annual dividends to which you and your fellow togs have indirectly contributed over recent years... |
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on May 6, 2023 17:49:54 GMT
Posted: May 6, 2023 17:49:54 GMT
I do not want to get into any debate nor into your life, but... (nothing good usually comes after that "but"  )... Would not be better to be pig headed or a Luddite about changing/converting to open-source software? Why feeding the mouths of people/companies that clearly are abusing their position on you as a customer? And I am not talking about money, a good deal of Open-Source software is provided for free, but requiring a paid subscription to get support, updates and bug fixes as soon are available. I am also aware of the usual differences between Proprietary Software developed for Pro users and the available Open-Source alternatives. Even if the Open-Source alternative is a piece of not so good, it would be much better to use it and help to improve it, maybe getting involved by providing feedback to the developers and/or issuing a "feature request", than allowing a corporation to force their ways on you. |
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on May 7, 2023 9:30:31 GMT
Last Edit: May 7, 2023 9:35:05 GMT by lumiworx
I think you're quite right, Ariel . I've participated with bug fixes, produced workarounds with code of my own, and even made extensions and templates/themes for dozens of projects over several decades that I've provided back to the project for free use. FOSS software can be very responsive to adaptation of new tech and helping with features and user concerns that commercial companies usually ignore unless it makes them money. On my recent and still in-process Windows 11 project I loaded Krita, Gimp, Darktable, Lightzone, and a few others, right along side the packages I purchased. They all have a place at the table and I'm glad to have them. Adobe's licensing switch looked like a fiasco from the start and I'm sure it has cost them users, but it's a mess of their own making. Adding to your thoughts on the cloud and future availability biggles3 ... I'm finding that it has leaked into hardware as well. Security cameras that will instantly become inoperable when the makers servers are temporarily compromised, or if they decide to close up shop they will no longer work. I have an HDHomerun dual channel network TV tuner - strictly to tune in my local OTA broadcast channels and distribute it to selected devices - that immediately drops out whenever there's a maintenance routine on their system that takes too long or it crashes their servers. I don't use a bit of their optional recording services, and it substitutes its own channel guide instead of the free one provided from each local station, which means that it's useless without the internet, and it sends everything to their systems first, only to return the signal once they've stripped and replaced the guide. It consistently shows it uses 20% of a reserved 6TB of data storage for my device., so it's clearly sucking in something. Even my internet router expects me to have a manufacturer's linked ID and account to 'help me' stay logged in. Luckily I can ignore that one. |
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)... Would not be better to be pig headed or a Luddite about changing/converting to open-source software?