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on Apr 30, 2022 12:46:27 GMT
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This was not something I expected to find here in the UK: a Yashica-branded custom Underwater Housing containing a Yashica EZ F924Z digital camera. Yashica Custom Underwater HousingsThere is a photo under the Accessories section ( Yashica 45 Meter Underwater Housing) showing what I thought was Yashica's (JNC Datum Tech.) only attempt at marketing an underwater camera in the form of the EZ F925 in a customised Yashica Underwater Housing. It had been made exclusively for the home market and remains actually a very effective combination. So, I'm looking at an auction being held in Chorley, Lancashire, when a different Yashica-branded digital camera appears, again in an underwater housing. The EZ F924Z is a 9Mp model with a 35-105mm (35mm equivalent) zoom lens offering a wide variety of photographic and video modes and functions. Also, although the native image size is 3488x2616 (9Mp), a size of up to 4032x3024 (12Mp) is available via interpolation. It's a very decent little camera; it takes SD cards and is powered by 2 AA batteries. As you can see, the EZ F924 Z has a shallower lens housing and the flash is shifted slightly to the right (looking at the photo) when compared with the EZ F925 model. I wonder if they made any more of these underwater models? At least with this one, it is helpful to have the user manual in English!
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on Apr 30, 2022 17:41:52 GMT
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12 MP was substantial resolution for the time period, and 45M/145Ft is certainly not shallow. The Nikonos V, as a dedicated underwater camera, was rated at 50 Meters (164 Feet), so it seems like these would have held their own considering who the competitors would have been. The ability to run on 2 AA batteries is something the Nikonos cameras couldn't manage either.
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on Apr 30, 2022 18:54:48 GMT
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12 MP was substantial resolution for the time period, and 45M/145Ft is certainly not shallow. The Nikonos V, as a dedicated underwater camera, was rated at 50 Meters (164 Feet), so it seems like these would have held their own considering who the competitors would have been. The ability to run on 2 AA batteries is something the Nikonos cameras couldn't manage either. Thank you for your comment; I was unaware of the depth to which the Nikonos V could be used. Sadly, I've not been able to find any sales or marketing literature relating to these two Yashica models; the Nikonos was hardly a cheap photographic option and underwater photography is something of a niche market. Looking at the construction of the housings and the control buttons, these have been made to a very high standard which implies that they must have been expensive to manufacture. Bespoke housings for the Contax 137MA and a Contax TLA30 are shown in the Accessories section; they're obviously from a couple of decades earlier and are much more substantial, as are the cameras, and marked 75M. Such was the progress in manufacturing ETPs (engineering thermo-plastics) over the intervening years (I once had the pleasure of working with GE Plastics in Bergen-op-Zoom) that the thickness and finish of these two casings is much more refined, even allowing for the reduced weight of the cameras. While the Contax kit would certainly weigh you down (2.4Kg plus 1kg for the flash), these two are incredibly light (564g with batteries). It looks like Lexan is used for the lens cover. I have just discovered that Yashica produced at least one other 'underwater' model - the EZ UW5 - with a Singapore seller offering the last 41 of them for sale at a trade price of $68 each. However, this is more of a waterproof camera as it's only guaranteed to a depth of 3m.
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on May 1, 2022 15:58:44 GMT
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A quick search shows that Amazon in Japan still has an active listing for the EZ UW5-YL - in bright yellow, at ¥13,531 ($104-ish USD) - but it's shown as "Temporarily out of stock". It looks like these were available in multiple colors, with photos posted that show black, yellow and 'grass' green models were/are sold. A general specs page on the EZ UW5 cameras is available here: www.exemode.com/yashica/dc/uw-5.htmlThe site displaying the specs looks to be a retail page, and I'm guessing they are still selling Yashica branded "EZ" cameras. Going up one step in the menu will take you to all the Yashica models... www.exemode.com/yashica/index.htmlHere's another used for-sale page with lots of details and more pics of the black version... www.sara-net.jp/?p=1065297
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on May 1, 2022 17:45:42 GMT
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Hi lumiworx Thank you for doing the leg-work on the EZ UW5 cameras; until I was checking for further underwater models, I had not even heard of the camera. It seems certain that at least the black model has a big issue with its body covering which seems to become tacky over time. I can appreciate the desire to have a slightly textured finish for something designed to be handled safely around water but there seems to have been a BIG problem with such a 'powdered' black finish. I had a portable hard-drive that had the identical problem. Very messy. I can understand why the company in Singapore is selling them so cheaply... It's a shame as it had a decent spec for its time. Oh yes, an apology to bobblehat - with these underwater cameras, it seems we may have found a few models that need adding to your superb wall-chart.
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on May 1, 2022 18:42:28 GMT
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There are more than a few devices I've acquired over time - cameras, lenses and otherwise - that had surfaces ruined by whatever silicone goop someone thought was 'the next big thing' in material coatings. In almost every case I've managed to remove it once it's turned into sticky slime, but it takes quite a bit of time and effort. It's not always possible to get every bit of it removed without a complete disassembly of the affected parts but at least the item can be handled and used again. The down side on one instance - a Sigma 21-35mm Zoom in C/Y mount - was having all of the barrel markings coming off with the goo. I'm guessing the coating softened the adherence the paint had and turned it into a separate layer, or it was only a decal under the coating. It's not bothersome for me to lose them, but not the best outcome in order to rescue an otherwise good piece of gear for someone who expects or depends on them. And... mentioning the chart from bobblehat , I also wonder if, and how many, might be from Brazil. With places like the beach in Rio, it seems like the perfect market for waterproof or underwater cameras to be tested/made.
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on May 2, 2022 9:51:49 GMT
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Hi lumiworx ................... Oh yes, an apology to bobblehat - with these underwater cameras, it seems we may have found a few models that need adding to your superb wall-chart. Ah! The chart! ..... I have been dithering for quite a while now as to whether I should remove the JNC Datum Tech cameras from the Yashica Family Tree Chart and just leave the JNC marker box there (as it is at the moment) to show a link to "Other cameras named Yashica". The reticence is caused by the work needed to determine where to draw the line in that "grey area" in 2007 where some Kyocera/Yashica later models were sold in JNC boxes (e.g. the EZ Zoom 105). If you have a recent version of the chart, you will probably notice that there are some place holders for JNC cameras where I have found out the model names but have yet to put the proper photo in above the names .... this is the point at which I started to have doubts about including the JNC models on the Yashica Family Tree chart, as I realised that the chart could go on forever with JNC producing new model after new model etc, in quick succession. Kyocera/Yashica stopping camera production in 2007 just seems to be a good place to draw a line on the chart! Of course, that leads to the next problem ...... should a new Family Tree Chart be started for JNC? I think I would have to leave that to someone else to do!
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on May 2, 2022 10:16:43 GMT
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........................... And... mentioning the chart from bobblehat , I also wonder if, and how many, might be from Brazil. With places like the beach in Rio, it seems like the perfect market for waterproof or underwater cameras to be tested/made. Prior to the K/Y crash of 2007, I did not spot any Brazil produced cameras that had any mention of "Waterproof" or "Underwater" attached to their specifications. I agree, that does seem to be a missed marketing opportunity by Yashica do Brazil I fact, if I remember correctly, it did not take long after 2007 for the Yashica do Brazil camera information contained on its website to start disappearing quickly. I wish I had copied more of that information while it was still up there. Is there any possibility that the info is still "out there" .... you seem to be better than me at finding hidden historic web info, could any of the Brazilian data be archived somewhere accessible?
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on May 2, 2022 10:22:29 GMT
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Hi bobblehat The chart is pretty impressive in its current form and, in all fairness, should probably suffice. JNC Datum models are, as you suggest, a bit of a grey area when it comes to trying to assess products with a genuine Yashica heritage. And we haven't even discussed Yashica Europe equipment which carries the Yashica brand but doesn't carry any reference to JNC Datum... However, there are a few situations where having both the original Yashica camera and later Kyocera or JNC Datum models is helpful; one that comes instantly to mind is the various iterations of the MF-2 as they span 25 years.
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