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on Nov 26, 2021 14:46:36 GMT
Posted: Nov 26, 2021 14:46:36 GMT
Anyone ever hear of Seikanon lenses?
Apparently they have been around for quite a while, and although their lenses appear to only be manual focus, they run from at least 28mm to 500mm -- with plenty of zooms, and tele-converters.
They show up with Minolta, Nikon, Canon, Pentax-K, Olympus, Konica and I assume C/Y and M42 mounts.
Anyone know who made them?
Maybe they were not marketed in the US? Maybe Seikanon is just a distributor, a la Vivitar, Soligor, Osawa, etc.?
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on Nov 26, 2021 16:31:38 GMT
Last Edit: Nov 26, 2021 16:32:06 GMT by lumiworx
According to a forum post I found, they were a chain store 'house brand' at one point, so I'd assume like other stores, they were contracted out to whomever could produce them with a reasonable margin left for the chain when sold. They could actually be a mish-mash of different brands and will take some detective work to find who the maker really was for each individual model.
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on Nov 27, 2021 10:38:23 GMT
Posted: Nov 27, 2021 10:38:23 GMT
Anyone ever hear of Seikanon lenses? Apparently they have been around for quite a while, and although their lenses appear to only be manual focus, they run from at least 28mm to 500mm -- with plenty of zooms, and tele-converters.
They show up with Minolta, Nikon, Canon, Pentax-K, Olympus, Konica and I assume C/Y and M42 mounts. Anyone know who made them? Maybe they were not marketed in the US? Maybe Seikanon is just a distributor, a la Vivitar, Soligor, Osawa, etc.?
As far as I'm aware, they were sold principally in the US and, as lumiworx said, were contracted out to a variety of manufacturers as witnessed by the variety of cosmetic finishes to be found on Seikanon glass. Although they marketed zooms, primes and tele-converters in a number of mounts, I don't recall seeing a C/Y lens; no doubt someone here will correct me on this. The only one of their range I heard good things about was a 28mm close-focus lens.
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on Dec 1, 2021 17:39:44 GMT
Last Edit: Dec 1, 2021 17:42:36 GMT by lumiworx
I don't know if there's a direct comparison with how department store brands work outside the US, but at least for those I'm familiar with in the States, the mounts could change just as easily as the manufacturer of the underlying item brand. KMart (the mall and super store version of S. S. Kresge's 'Five and Dime' stores) had a revolving door with no allegiance to stock the same mount for any consecutive year or even within the same year, and given the nature of the parent company, it was surely about whatever produced the best profit margins and they never put the quality of the product at the forefront. That's not to say that they didn't occasionally manage to sell some better than average items... it just was a coincidence that they had them at all. Sears Roebuck and Montgomery Ward were a bit more upscale and valued the quality enough to get better products, but they both still weren't very conscious about what switching lens mount meant to customers. They were heavy competitors and both were big on very large scale catalog merchandising for sale presentations and even special sales (equal to today's 'black friday', if you will) and they were nationwide. KMart started out more regional to the upper midwest, and weren't into catalogs or competing with the 'big boys'. Most of us on the forum might be familiar with the Tower brand from Sears for the Nicca stuff from their final years, and later on, the plain-jane Sears line that sold the Tomioka 55mm's on T.L.S. cameras in M42. Which reminds me I've got some photo shooting to do on that front) J.C. Penny was the other part of the Big 3 of the day, and they were somewhere in between the others for prices, and pretty much in the same league as KMart on mounts and manufacturers, but they tended to have less turnover in what they offered year after year. I'm sure there were other retail chains in the US at a more regional level that I'm not familiar with, but I can say that it wasn't the same with retail camera store chains. I don't think I've run across any other house brands that might qualify, but there might be something in low volume that doesn't show up often. We didn't really have to much in the way of national camera stores either, and the only ones I know of that might have had 'house brands' would have been Ritz Camera. They have changed a lot since they were bought out in 2012-ish, and I don't know what type of branding they might have had. I wasn't a frequent buyer to know their lines.
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on Dec 1, 2021 19:40:48 GMT
Last Edit: Dec 1, 2021 19:55:46 GMT by xkaes
Yes, Sears, Kmart, and Wards sold several cameras rebadged with their own name -- and a few special models with the manufacturer's name retained. And Ritz's did the same too. I know of two -- the Minolta XK and the SR201 -- both of which had an odd, rubberized, waffle covering instead of the normal leatherette. So there likely were other oddities as well.
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