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on Jun 18, 2021 15:35:14 GMT
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I just ran across a Yashica Quick-Lite on EBAY, and it made me wonder if there is a list somewhere of Yashicas (and Contax???) flash units with at least some specs.
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on Jun 19, 2021 1:21:29 GMT
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I just ran across a Yashica Quick-Lite on EBAY, and it made me wonder if there is a list somewhere of Yashicas (and Contax???) flash units with at least some specs. In terms of creating a list of Yashica- and Contax- branded flash units, a useful starting point might be found on our Accessories p2 where we have a thread on trigger voltages. It lists many of the Yashica flashes plus the Contax ones; it was created solely to help people decide whether they can safely use them directly on the hot shoes of modern DSLRs or similar mirrorless models as some old flash guns, like many of the very popular Vivitar units, would fry their circuitry. If we take that list as a starting point, which criteria would you like to see included: GN, recycling times, batteries/AC power. tilt/swivel heads, secondary flashes, bulb types & capacitors (in older units) etc.? |
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on Jun 19, 2021 12:58:32 GMT
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I did a quick/shallow web search and it appears that there currently is no comprehensive list of the Yashica or the Contax offerings -- let alone together. Wiki has a short list of Contax flashes, but my guess is that they were all made by "Yashica". Some Contax on-line literature has flash details, but again, my guess is that they were all made by "Yashica" -- regardless of how they were labeled. For example, one Contax brochure shows the CS-10. I have one labeled YASHICA, but perhaps they were also sold with the CONTAX name. Info on older gear seems non-existent. I would think a flash table should include the label (ex. YASHICA CS-10), manufacturer (YASHICA OR CONTAX), type (bulb, flash), power (2AA, AC), connection (cols, hot, PC, slave). Sounds like a lot of work. I know -- here is my incomplete Minolta flash list:
www.subclub.org/minman/flashes.htm |
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on Jun 19, 2021 14:34:01 GMT
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I did a quick/shallow web search and it appears that there currently is no comprehensive list of the Yashica or the Contax offerings -- let alone together. Wiki has a short list of Contax flashes, but my guess is that they were all made by "Yashica". Some Contax on-line literature has flash details, but again, my guess is that they were all made by "Yashica" -- regardless of how they were labeled. For example, one Contax brochure shows the CS-10. I have one labeled YASHICA, but perhaps they were also sold with the CONTAX name. Info on older gear seems non-existent. I would think a flash table should include the label (ex. YASHICA CS-10), manufacturer (YASHICA OR CONTAX), type (bulb, flash), power (2AA, AC), connection (cols, hot, PC, slave). I will try to develop a list of Contax and Yashica flashes but we will have problems with detailing some of the earlier Yashica units as, for example, GNs were not always specified. The Contax range was developed quite separately from Yashica's and their most powerful units (RTF540 and TLA480) were undoubtedly made by National (check the National PE-480SG against the Contax TLA480). I would be most interested to know which Contax brochure shows a CS-10 as it was only ever sold as a Yashica product. I can't find any European brochure for post-1975 Contax models that shows the CS-10 on a Contax, though I have yet to locate two of my 137MD brochures. |
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on Jun 19, 2021 16:23:15 GMT
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Here's where I saw it: www.pacificrimcamera.com/rl/00809/00809.pdfThe main page says CONTAX REAL TIME FLASH, and t shows it as for the Contax cameras -- but the top of the page says YASHICA. So you are right -- this brochures just shoes Contax cameras (and Yashica cameras) with Contax and Yashica flashes. FYI, I just posted a link to a new EBAY listing for a nice ME1 with a CS-10 in the BUY/SELL section. Looks nice, but not for me! |
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on Jun 19, 2021 18:04:46 GMT
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Here's the list that you posted earlier. There must be a lot more out there:
Flash Trigger Voltages
Yashica
CS-10: 48 volts
CS-14: 253.5 volts
CS-15:
CS-20: 205.6 volts
CS-110 AF Auto:
CS-140: 4.09 volts
CS-200:
CS-201 Auto: 11.9 volts
CS-202: 11 volts
CS-203 Auto: 11.2 volts
CS-204 Auto: 10.6 volts
CS-220 Auto: 10.5 volts
CS-220W SUPER: 8.6 volts
CS-221 Auto: 5 volts
CS-240 Auto: 7.2 volts
CS-250 AF Auto: 4.3 volts
ES-20:
ES-220:
MS-II:
MS-20DX: 216 volts
PRO-50DX: 213 volts
QUICK-LITE P 25: 208 volts
DX 100mm f4 Ring Flash: 8.6 volts*
Contax
RTF540: 5.6 volts
TLA140: 4.7 volts
TLA20: 4.2 volts
TLA200: 4.1 volts
TLA280: 3.6 volts
TLA30: 4-8.9 volts
TLA360: 3.2 volts **
TLA480: 4.8 volts **
* I can confirm from experience that the Yashica DX 100 f4 Dental Lens works perfectly with Olympus 4/3 DSLRs - certainly the E-1, E-3, E-30 and E-620.
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on Jun 24, 2021 14:11:26 GMT
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This might be a helpful starting point...
YASHICA FLASH MAX GN MOUNT HEAD CYCLING POWER TRIGGER ACCESSORIES
ISO 100 in M INTERVAL VOLTAGE
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ENERGY OUTPUT
YASHICA Y16 # - SIDE CAMERA BULB/FIXED - 15V CELL
YASHICA-LITE BC-1: - SHOE BULB/FIXED - 15V CELL - case
QUICK-LITE P 25: 25W/s SHOE 90° ROTATION 6s AA x4 208 bracket
QUICK-LITE MINI-30: 30W/s SHOE FIXED
QUICK-LITE PRO-40R: 40W/s BRACKET FIXED bracket. hand-strap
MG-LITE: 14 SHOE FIXED AA x2
CS-10: 10 SHOE FIXED 11s AA x1 48
CS-14: 14 SHOE FIXED 9s AA x2 253.5
CS-15: 15 SHOE FIXED 9s AA x2
CS-20: 20 SHOE FIXED 7s AA x4 205.6
CS-110 AF Auto: 11 SHOE FIXED 5s FROM CAMERA
CS-140: 14 SHOE FIXED 4s AA x2 4.09
CS-200: 20 SHOE FIXED 9s AA x2
CS-201 Auto: 20 SHOE FIXED 4-6s AA x4 11.9
CS-202 Auto: 20 SHOE FIXED 9s AA x2 11
CS-203 Auto: 20 SHOE FIXED 9s AA x2 11.2
CS-204 Auto: 20 SHOE TILT 5s AA x4 10.6
CS-220 Auto: 22 SHOE TILT 4s AA x4 10.5
CS-220W SUPER: 22 SHOE TILT/SWIVEL 5s AA x4 8.6 Contax TLA system
CS-221 Auto: 22 SHOE TILT 5s AA x4 5
CS-240 Auto: 24 SHOE TILT/SWIVEL 5s AA x4 7.2 case, Contax TLA system
CS-250 AF Auto: 32 SHOE TILT/ZOOM/AF 6s/3s NiCad AA x4 4.3 case, Contax TLA system
ES14: 14 SHOE FIXED 8s AA x2
ES-20: 20 SHOE FIXED 6s/4s AA x4
AUTO-ES 220: 22 SHOE FIXED
MS-II:
MS-110 (for 110 Electro):
MS-20DX: 20 SHOE FIXED 10s AA x2 216 Sync cord
PRO-50: 20 SHOE FIXED
PRO-50DX: 20 SHOE 90° ROTATION 9s/7s, AC AA x3, AC 213 Sync cord, AC Power
PRO-100: 50 BRACKET FIXED
# The Y16 Flash Gun was included in some kits for Yashica's Y16 & 16EE miniature cameras but was also available for separate purchase.
CONTAX FLASH MAX GN MOUNT HEAD CYCLING POWER TRIGGER AVAILABLE ACCESSORIES
ISO 100 in M INTERVAL VOLTAGE
RTF540: 40 BRACKET TILT/SWIVEL Min. 0.2s AAx12, 510v, AC 5.6 slaves, sensor holders, filter sets, TLA adapters, power pack, extension cords, AC Controller, TLA system
T14 AUTO: * 14 SIDE CAMERA FIXED Min. 4s AA x2 4.8 none
TLA140: 14 SHOE FIXED Min. 4.8s CR123A 4.7 case, TLA system
TLA20: 20 SHOE FIXED Min. 5s AA x4 4.2 case, diffuser, TLA System
TLA200: 20 SHOE FIXED/ZOOM Min. 3.4s CR2 x2 4.1 case, TLA system
TLA280: 28 SHOE ZOOM/TWIN/TILT Min. 5s AA x4 3.6 case, TLA system
TLA30: 30 SHOE TILT Min. 4s AA x4 4-8.9 case, diffuser, TLA system
TLA360: 36 SHOE ZOOM/TWIN/TILT/ Min. 5s AA x4, C x6 3.2 case, PS-220 Pack, TLA system
SWIVEL
TLA480: 48 BRACKET ZOOM/TILT/SWIVEL Min. 5s D x8, AC 4.8 PS-120 Power Pack (essential but not supplied), PS-130 AC Power Pack, diffuser, TLA Adapter II, TLA system
* The T14 Auto is a dedicated unit for the Contax T
Some data are missing; if anyone here can provide them it would be much appreciated. There are also more Yashica flash-bulb units to add to the list.
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on Jun 24, 2021 18:05:50 GMT
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That's a great table. I'll keep my eye open for any additional info.
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on Jun 25, 2021 18:35:16 GMT
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That's a great table. I'll keep my eye open for any additional info. Thank you for that. As I come across any working items that are either absent from our list or are in it but lacking some information, I'll try to get hold of them and keep updating. Looking back at the trigger voltages, I still find it incredible that the capacitor in the tiny CS-14 can create over 250v from just two 1.5v AA batteries... |
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on Jun 28, 2021 12:47:53 GMT
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I nabbed one. It's a small fish, but those are the ones I like. It's a Yashica MG-Lite. Obviously designed for the Yashica MG-1 camera, but looks like it might like my Minolta MG-s. Has hot shoe -- no PC connection. Looks like GN 44 in feet with ISO 100. Table on back. Test button & ready light. Manual exposure only. Probably TWO AA.
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on Jun 28, 2021 15:43:59 GMT
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on Jun 28, 2021 17:58:05 GMT
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I saw that one as well. There was a much less-expensive pair a few days ago, bit I'm only interested in the flash, and the current flash-only auction is over-priced in my mind.
For some reason most sellers of really small -- manual only, of course -- flashes think that their item is worth more than gold. There an auction right now for a Yashica CS-14 that's about the same price as the numerous Contax TLA 140 flashes. Go figure!
Fortunately, I'm in not rush. I just nabbed a CS-14 and Sunpak 101 -- together -- for only $5!!! I'm still surprised. They haven't arrived yet, but even if only one works, it's a good deal.
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on Jun 28, 2021 20:41:31 GMT
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Thank you guys - details have been updated as much as is possible for the moment.
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on Jun 29, 2021 16:52:13 GMT
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I still find it incredible that the capacitor in the tiny CS-14 can create over 250v from just two 1.5v AA batteries... Just being pedantic here, but the capacitor doesn't do anything other than store the charge. The voltage is generated by a step-up transformer driven by an oscillator - that's what causes the whistling noise you hear. |
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on Jun 29, 2021 18:08:19 GMT
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On many flashes, such as the Vivitar 283, the whistling noice is very apparent, yet on other flashes, such as the Minolta 2500D, I don't hear it at all. In the "old days" I used the whistling sound to confirm that the flash was turned ON, that the batteries were good, and that there was a good connection. With newer flashes, I have to just sit and hope! Do newer flashes have silent oscillators?
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