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on Mar 30, 2021 19:02:33 GMT
Posted: Mar 30, 2021 19:02:33 GMT
Hi everyone, I am new to the forum and wanted to ask about a problem with my camera and its lens.
The problem is that when I focus at more than 1.5 meters / 5 feet, the focus comes too close inside the camera, I think its normal but it touches the camera and the camera opens the shutter and mirror but get stucked open and I can't finish the image, so i can only take pictures with the focus set below 1.5 meters / 5 feet. Do you know what is the problem here because I just have this objective and I don't want to buy another one but if its broken I will do it because I can't use the camera like this... Thank you!
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on Mar 30, 2021 21:20:28 GMT
Posted: Mar 30, 2021 21:20:28 GMT
Hi everyone, I am new to the forum and wanted to ask about a problem with my camera and its lens.
The problem is that when I focus at more than 1.5 meters / 5 feet, the focus comes too close inside the camera, I think its normal but it touches the camera and the camera opens the shutter and mirror but get stucked open and I can't finish the image, so i can only take pictures with the focus set below 1.5 meters / 5 feet. Do you know what is the problem here because I just have this objective and I don't want to buy another one but if its broken I will do it because I can't use the camera like this... Thank you! Hello and welcome to the Forum. My first suspicion would be that the mirror has slipped by about 1.5-2mm rather than a f1.9 lens having some form of rear-focusing problem. Which 50 1.9 lens are you talking about: DSB, ML or ML C? Can you take a close-up photo of the front of the mirror or at least check that it is flush with its support frame. I have tried to replicate the problem using a FX-3 Super 2000 and each of the the first two lenses and I can't get anything to snag.
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on Mar 30, 2021 21:58:57 GMT
Posted: Mar 30, 2021 21:58:57 GMT
Hi everyone, I am new to the forum and wanted to ask about a problem with my camera and its lens.
The problem is that when I focus at more than 1.5 meters / 5 feet, the focus comes too close inside the camera, I think its normal but it touches the camera and the camera opens the shutter and mirror but get stucked open and I can't finish the image, so i can only take pictures with the focus set below 1.5 meters / 5 feet. Do you know what is the problem here because I just have this objective and I don't want to buy another one but if its broken I will do it because I can't use the camera like this... Thank you! Hello and welcome to the Forum. My first suspicion would be that the mirror has slipped by about 1.5-2mm rather than a f1.9 lens having some form of rear-focusing problem. Which 50 1.9 lens are you talking about: DSB, ML or ML C? Can you take a close-up photo of the front of the mirror or at least check that it is flush with its support frame. I have tried to replicate the problem using a FX-3 Super 2000 and each of the the first two lenses and I can't get anything to snag. Hello. As you say, the mirror was moved and I tried to heat it up to return it to its original position and now I'm waiting for it to cool down and try tomorrow. It was weird that the 50mm was the problem but I could not find another cause, now I have been able to fix it. I have also recorded a video of the process to put it on youtube in case it can be useful to someone Thank you for answering me and could you recommend me some lenses for this camera since I do not know its mount very well and I only have the 50mm, if they can be cheap since I have the analog as a hobby and I use it very little. Greetings and thank you!
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on Mar 31, 2021 15:38:50 GMT
Posted: Mar 31, 2021 15:38:50 GMT
Hello str, I hope the re-setting of the mirror solves your problem. As for recommending some lenses to expand your photographic opportunities, there are literally hundreds of options in terms of focal length, prime or zoom and so many manufacturers.... I would suggest spending a little while looking through the Forum's Lenses and 3rd Party Lenses sections to get an idea of what Members favour. If one's looking to do this on a budget and expand your photo-taking capability, it's probably easiest to add a wide-angle and a medium telephoto to your 50mm lens; I would recommend a 28mm and a 135mm as a good starting point; it largely depends on what you are planning to photograph but for general photography - landscapes, portraits, etc. - this will be helpful. You need to ensure that the lens has a C/Y or Contax/Yashica mount and once you have established that, you have a massive choice available. If budgets are a consideration, you can forget about the Contax Zeiss T* lenses but Yashica's ML lens range is comprehensive and the quality is generally very high and, with a few exceptions, they're not too expensive. If I was buying, I'd probably aim for a ML 28mm f2.8 and ML 135mm f2.8 which with your 50mm will give you 3 prime lenses - wide-angle, standard and portrait/short telephoto. You can then decide if you'd like to use a zoom to enjoy the flexibility it can offer; here Yashica has one of the most comprehensive range of any manufacturer. There are a few that can be expensive (ML 28-50, ML 35-70 f3.5, ML 35-70 f4, ML 70-210 f4) although bargains can sometime be found but lenses like the rather fine ML 35-105, ML 75-150 and the classic ML 80-200 can offer great value. There is another excellent ML lens, the 28-85mm, which I would recommend but you need to be sure that it is free from any signs of haze as some seem to have issues with balsam separation but a good one is a super lens to use. As you can see, with just two lenses: ML 28-85 and ML 80-200 you can cover everything from wide-angle to telephoto. Of course, there are other lens-makers and they too can offer great glass at reasonable (and sometime very cheap) prices. Names to look out for include Super-Paragon, Sigma, Tokina, Vivitar and Tamron. If you spot a lens with the C/Y mount that you think may be right for you, do check it for reviews on the web. The Tamron Adaptall range of lenses is particularly interesting as they offer an adapter to fit Contax/Yashica SLRs but if you have other SLRs, they usually have adapters for them too so with 1 lens and 2 adapters, you can take photos on 2 different systems. Tamron has a fair selection of prime lenses and a large number of zooms; most of their lenses are inexpensive but their superior SP range can prove costly. Both Vivitar and Tokina offer similar superior quality ranges (Series 1 and AT-X respectively) that can be expensive but as with Tamron's Adaptall lenses, the non-premium quality glass is pretty good. A really good system would be your FX-3 Super 2000 + 50 1.9, ML 28mm, ML 135mm and ML 80-200. I might add a set of Auto Extension Tubes so that you could do some macro work; they're usually pretty cheap as they don't contain any glass. A 2x Teleconverter can be a useful accessory though most will slightly degrade the image and you'll lose 2 stops of light in return for the doubling of the focal length. I'm sure other Members of the Forum will have alternative opinions...
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on Apr 1, 2021 6:20:13 GMT
Last Edit: Apr 1, 2021 6:24:13 GMT by lumiworx
If you need a point of refertence on focal lengths and what you can expect from different sizes and how they work for photos, it might be worth playing with a simulator that offers a preview image. The DoF simulator provides not only Depth of Field, but also Field of View simulations, and a way to evaluate things like generic bokeh (background blur). It gives anyone an opportunity to dial in a lens choice based on just the technical setup and mathamatical numbers without worrying about the optical quality first. At the most basic level, lenses can offer characteristics that are often quite different between brands and even the historical and concurrent versions that individual brands were made with (i.e., Yasica's DSB versus ML model lines), so often it's very helpful to find sample photos to compare what you'll actually see when using them for yourself. Sometimes those character traits will be pleasing to one user, and not another, so a bit of homework can really save you a lot in both time and money. I'm rather biased to what Yashica and Zeiss lenses in C/Y mount can do in general, and there are lots of individual differences too... particularly at the wide end, from 15mm up to 35mm. biggles3 gave some options that are very reasonable, and good choices for quality on a budget. I'd also offer that what might seem to be lesser lenses in monetary value can be astounding values in photo IQ and realistic results, although you occasionally may find a lemon along the way. The Yashica ML f/2.0 50mm lens is highly underated, and can still be had for $25 USD or less for one in decent shape. There are gobs of them, so they'll always be inexpensive. The ML 28mm is less cash than the 24mm by a good amount, but it's a good performer and has pretty stable quality between production runs. The ML 35mm is even better in quality overall, but is slightly narrower in FoV - but can be a bit pricey. The other ML 50mm's that are worth examining, are the f/1.7 (generally, superb) and for a Yashica 'wow' factor without a Zeiss 'wow' price... the substantial and fast, f/1.4. On the telephoto end in primes, there are 2 versions of the 135mm - the standard 135, and the 135c ('c' for, 'compact') - and can both be good, but the 135c isn't a Tomioka-built Yashica lens, but one from Cosina. Build and optical quality can vary a bit for both, so buying one with return privileges can be helpful if you get a dud and have paid too much. ML 200mm lenses can be a good option if you need a tighter shot than a 135mm offers, with even more diffusion in the background blur. Here's some samples I've posted using both versions of the Yashica ML 200's (ML 200 and ML 200c), and both of the Zeiss versions (newer f/3.5, and the earlier f/4). BTW... If you're only able to come accross a hazy 28-85mm ML zoom and a little repair work doesn't scare you off, there's always my 28-85mm cleanup guide to take away the mystery if you're up for it. If you like what you see with Yashica lenses, you'll find the Zeiss lenses in C/Y mount will offer an upgrade path in the same mount, so you'll be able to reuse the camera body for another class of lenses.
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