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on Apr 12, 2024 16:25:02 GMT
Posted: Apr 12, 2024 16:25:02 GMT
I have a few Contax Yashica lenses among which the 100/2, the element behind the front one shows sign of fungus and I'd like to attempt and clean it on my own, is there any online guide on how to attempt such task?
I can't figure how to remove the front ring to begin with
Thank you
Giovanni
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on Apr 13, 2024 20:25:09 GMT
Posted: Apr 13, 2024 20:25:09 GMT
I can't say that I've ever seen a teardown and cleaning video, or even a text post or pdf about one being done. A quick search didn't yield any results either.
The 100mm f/2 isn't a cheap lens, so I'd be remiss if I didn't offer a caution in taking a DIY approach, but with that said... the issue with cleaning takes a back seat in the process behind disassembly, and the 100/2 doesn't look like it comes in the 'easier' barrel/case types, like the 35/50/135 lenses do.
I don't have one to examine, nor have I opened one before, so I can only guess which way it's constructed. I do have my doubts about simply unscrewing the front group as a whole like you can on the more common fixed lenses in the normal and wide end of the line, so that leads to 2 other possibilities. The flat front surround ring may unscrew, which would give you relatively easy access -OR- there might be multiple barrel lock screws hiding under the grip rubber, and that can be a nightmare on older lenses when those teeny 0.5mm screws crack and break, and get thoroughly stuck as a result.
If you're determined and willing to take the risk to crack open the barrel, you should be able find any number of videos on YouTube on the actual cleaning process.
One other caution when it comes to cleaning fungus... if it's old enough, it will etch itself into the glass, and no amount of cleaning will make it optically better once cleaned. If after a thorough examination - like with an 8x loupe - you see that the tendrils look 3 dimensional... it's past saving. The best you can do is use UV light to kill what's there and halt further spread. That's also a "rinse and repeat' every few years, or even less under crappy conditions.
The 100/2 has 67mm filter threads, so if the front ring can be removed you'll need to find an appropriate sized rubbery ring to press onto the lens ring to grip and turn it, without it's edges overlapping the glass of the front element. Trust me that it doesn't take much to obliterate the coating layers if they get dragged over.
I purchased a complete stack of cone-shaped rubber grips to do exactly this type of teardown, and the largest one is 61mm in diameter which works for 62mm surrounds, so obviously you'd need something considerably bigger at 66mm. My guess is that you would need to make your own or adapt something similar to work.
There's one other caveat that could come into play, and perhaps one of the other members might have some insight. If the 2nd/3rd lens on a 4/5/6 lens group is the only one to clean, those _might_ be fused into a plastic sleeve as a fully assembled stack. Those can't really be opened and resealed, so be prepared for any possibility.
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on Apr 14, 2024 12:21:03 GMT
Posted: Apr 14, 2024 12:21:03 GMT
Welcome to the Forum giovanni68 As Lumiworx has stated, there are no online references or guides to a 100 f2 clean or repair. Looking closely at my AE version of your lens, it appears that the front element can be removed by unscrewing the lens' bezel (the part which surrounds the front glass); it's fortunately wide enough to be able to use any ring of between 57-61mm in diameter which has sufficient friction to be able to grip the bezel and turn it. HOWEVER, I would caution you that not all Carl Zeiss lenses open in this manner - a good example being the 50 f1.7 Planar which does but the f1.4 version requires you to unscrew the front barrel assembly. To my eye, I think the 100mm will release its front element, and thus reveal the second element, by unscrewing the bezel but I'm not prepared to take the risk to test this; as was said, it's a valuable lens and not worth risking damage to it. If the fungus sits between the second and third elements of the front group, you might need to remove an internal retaining ring which holds those two elements in the correct position - that may require some form of lens spanner but one slip of the spanner and your 100mm might become a paperweight! Treating it with UV-C light will at least stop any fungus from spreading; this may also help you to find a technician who is prepared to clean the lens - many will not touch one with fungus due to the fear of cross-contamination but if the fungus is inert, they are more likely to accept it for treatment. If the fungus is not severe - you say there are 'signs of fungus' which suggests it may not be too bad - zapping the lens with UV-C is surely your best bet.
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