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on Sept 8, 2020 4:25:13 GMT
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Hi all , new to this forum.
So I purchased a Mint Yashica Electro 35 GX and it will be here Friday.
I am seeing what the correct 2 batteries are that I can buy locally. Ive searched all over forums with no results , could not even find anything on Yashicaguy.com
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on Sept 8, 2020 13:21:38 GMT
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So I see you said the zinc air batteries for hearing aids
I live in the states , I see Best Buy and Lowe’s has like 8 packs of them for 8 bucks which is great , now is there anyway to use something they sell at Lowe’s or somewhere to make them fit snug ?
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on Sept 8, 2020 21:37:11 GMT
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This is a situation where 1 currently available battery is replacing 2 discontinued ones - with an added complication that there's a major shift in case diameters when switched. You might be able to fashion something with tin foil, but keep in mind that Zinc-Air hearing aid batteries will only have an average of about 1 month of power once they're 'activated'. Be prepaired to repeat the process.
Whichever way you'd choose, Zinc-Air's can be problematic if left in over long periods of time. Some tend to oxidize their contents outside their case in the months after they're depleted.
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on May 26, 2021 20:31:07 GMT
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Hi, if doing this would you have to use 2 adapters for both battery slots?
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on May 27, 2021 0:49:43 GMT
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Hi, if doing this would you have to use 2 adapters for both battery slots?
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Welcome to the forum adamfriedland ... The adapters that biggles3 linked to are meant to be spacing/fitment adapters, and each battery would need one adapter to get each of them to properly fill the space required for proper electrical contact. There's one other question I should have asked earlier, that might need to be answered first before any of the options are chosen... does the camera actually function when batteries are used? It might be worthwhile to try something temporarily with cells that match or approximate the expected voltage before committing to a longer term solution. I just did this today, to check a Konica Autoreflex T3 that normally uses 2x PX675 1.35v Mercury batteries, which are no longer available. Inserting 2x SR44 1.5v cells (similar enough in physical size) confirmed that the meter worked fine, although the reading was off because of the +0.3v power difference. The SR44's can be used permanently if the meter is 'tricked' to use them - by changing the film's ISO rating as-set for metering - or I can use Zinc-Air hearing aid batteries with DIY methods, or buying a set of adapters.
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on May 27, 2021 7:43:05 GMT
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Welcome to the forum adamfriedland ... The adapters that biggles3 linked to are meant to be spacing/fitment adapters, and each battery would need one adapter to get each of them to properly fill the space required for proper electrical contact. There's one other question I should have asked earlier, that might need to be answered first before any of the options are chosen... does the camera actually function when batteries are used? It might be worthwhile to try something temporarily with cells that match or approximate the expected voltage before committing to a longer term solution. I just did this today, to check a Konica Autoreflex T3 that normally uses 2x PX675 1.35v Mercury batteries, which are no longer available. Inserting 2x SR44 1.5v cells (similar enough in physical size) confirmed that the meter worked fine, although the reading was off because of the +0.3v power difference. The SR44's can be used permanently if the meter is 'tricked' to use them - by changing the film's ISO rating as-set for metering - or I can use Zinc-Air hearing aid batteries with DIY methods, or buying a set of adapters. The camera was purchased from a reseller that tested it before selling (apparently). The transaction was done with Paypal through eBay so I'm hopefully protected if it turns out to be FUBAR. But pursuing a short term solution might be a good idea.
I have 2 further question:
1. Could you confirm this information for me?
- PX640A alkaline reproductions give the most accurate metering, but are hard to find and subsequently expenisve
- SR44s are easy to find however require some unorthodox solutions to get proper contact with the terminals. I've also heard that these degrade over time in such a way that prevents them from giving a steady voltage and thus more and more innacurate meter readings over time. Can you confirm?
- What kind of pros and cons do Zinc-Air offer?
2. This is a slightly unrelated question. The film advance lever can't actually be "cocked" and when the shutter release is pushed there isn't any resistance. Is this because the lever was cocked and then fired with a battery in it (presumably while the seller was testing it before shipping), but then had the battery removed? I don't have any batteries to test it with ATM and probably won't until next week.
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on May 27, 2021 21:34:32 GMT
Last Edit: May 27, 2021 21:44:29 GMT by lumiworx
First off, there's a few places to reference with some collective wisdom on what has worked for others. Karen Nakamura's site has a comprehensive page that covers most of the discontinued battery products - Mercury and otherwise - and what can be considered as replacements for them. It has most of what's known to work on one page... www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/batteries.htmlThere are 2 pages from Mike Butkus' site that deal with a number of battery issues that refer to multiple solutions found over the last few decades... www.butkus.org/chinon/camera_batteries.htm and www.butkus.org/chinon/mercury_replacement_batteries.html There might not be a definitive answer to cover every individual camera - even the same model can vary in how it handles a given solution, since chemistry and age are never constant or 100% consistent. The best advice I can offer is to assume that whatever option there is will end up being a compromise of one type or another, and there may be procedural adjustments (like, changing ISO values), higher costs and/or more frequent replacements above what the original battery would call for, or additional purchases (1 or 2 adapters) that may be needed to get some use of the camera/flash/winder at some diminished level that won't match the original's performance, but will be close enough to extend the gear for continued use. My experiences... - Zinc Air alternatives (with or without #9 O-Rings as space adapters) will work, but will not last long. Once you peel off the 'sticker' to activate them, it's a constantly running engine that will never go back to idle mode.
- Adapter's with built-in voltage circuits work, but they can be expensive to purchase as up-front costs will be higher than a bag-o-batteries, so it becomes a question of how much cash do you want to throw at a solution over the lifetime of your use for what it/they will power.
- SR44's (Silver Oxide) are better alternatives than LR44's (Alkaline) at the same voltage and will be more accurate over a longer amount of time - and yes, their power curve is not as 'flat' as any Mercury cell it would replace, and will eventually mismatch what should be a correct reading. The answer to that is to occasionally check your readings with an alternate meter you trust, to judge reading accuracy and then change out cells when they start to fade.
- If the PX-640 work-alike you're referring to are the Wein Cells or those from Excell - yes they're expensive, but not too difficult to find. Amazon usually carries one or the other, or both - at least in the US. Again, it's a case of your expense over the lifetime of the gear, and if it's worth it - to you.
If the camera requires a battery for metering and shutter actuation, then yes the wind lever can 'freeze' until the battery is replaced. Contax and Yashica cameras that share the same electronic/magnetic shutter circuits all act this way, as do many other maker's cameras that use the same type of shutter systems. FX-D's, 139Q's, RTS, and several others will require a 2nd set of batteries on-hand to make sure you'll keep shooting when old ones fail. Yashica FX-3's use mechanical shutters, which sets them apart, but they are fully manual cameras too, so if someone prefers some programmed automation they're out of luck.
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