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on Jan 3, 2020 5:11:12 GMT
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Hi All,
A happy New year to you all.
I have the following issue and wonder if anyone can give me some guidance as to how I can fix this issue.
I have the following;
Yashica 124G A Nikon SB400 flash - small and very handy
I want to use the flash for my TLR, but because the Nikon flash has so many new and beautiful pins at the bottom as well as a safety pin lock that I can't fit this directly onto my TLR. In fact, I can't even use this Nikon flash for my other cameras, not even for the old fashion Nikon SLR cameras etc...
I understand that there are small converter adapter that I can buy to attach this to my camera. I believe I will also need a PC-PC cable to fire the TLR too.
My question is, does anyone here know what type of hot shoe converter adapter I should be getting? I can see there is a brand called Pixel and they are cheap too, but is there one that it can fit onto a cold shoe? Obviously I am looking for one that fit the Nikon flash to a normal old fashion cold shoe with PC-PC cable too (for the TLR).
If anyone here can tell me the brand I should be getting or direct me to the right website would be much appreciated.
At the moment I use a Canon old flash and a converter adapter that come with the PC cable.
Thanking you in advance.
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on Jan 3, 2020 13:20:00 GMT
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on Jan 3, 2020 14:59:56 GMT
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I'm not a Yashica 124G nor a Nikon SB400 user, but I have faced the same situation. The good news is that their are a ton of flash adapters out there, but finding the correct one for you might not be easy. The camera and flash manufacturers make adapters, but these are usually designed to work with their gear and are expensive. The non-OEM adapter makers are likely to meet your needs but they can have their own problems. I have some that work exactly as they should, but others that simply won't -- with particular camera and flash combinations.
My guess is that Nikon made a simple SB400-to-cold shoe adapter, but a non-Nikon SB400-type replica (to cold shoe) SHOULD work fine and save you some cash.
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on Jan 3, 2020 18:50:29 GMT
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I'm at a disadvantage right now with my home internet being down, so I can't check links... but, there are a couple of the adapters that I've used that can provide 2 functions when using vintage cameras. The original adapter was made by Wein (Safe Sync), and one of the many variations was made by Pixel, among others.
The 1st function provides a voltage protection circuit to keep the pin voltage at no more than 6 volts - no matter what flash is used, on whatever camera it is meant to protect. That's aimed at adapting for digital cameras, but keeps it safe for anything used. The 2nd function turns the upper multi-pin flash-connected shoe into a center pin only connection on the lower shoe block. They should be ordered to match the flash brand needing adaption.
I use them on film or digital bodies to adapt my SB-600 and SB-800 flashes, as well as a set of flash triggers for remote/wireless flash use of the same Nikon's. They have never failed to work.
The adaptors all use a battery in their circuit to alter the trigger voltage, so it's a good idea to have extras of those on hand.
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on Jan 3, 2020 20:13:07 GMT
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WOW, flash adapters that use batteries! I learn something new every day.
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on Jan 3, 2020 20:57:29 GMT
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Hi Peter_r Thank you for the links. It's yes and no. I already have one of these. It's only suitable for old flash. Please see attached link below.
Have a look at the first picture and you can see the base of the flash. The size of the base is not in a square shape but a bit rectangle, and on top/bottom, there is a tiny pin called the lock pin. The flash will not fire unless the pin is locked and the pin will not in lock position as it won't fit the hot shoe due to the length of the base.
I guess is something like this
But I am not sure if this will work. Of course I will need the cable as well. I wonder if anyone has tried this with their TLR.
Thanks
BTW, is there a trick to attach photos here. I tried to attach an image of the flash and the adapter here and it's not working. I am just wondering. Thanks
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on Jan 3, 2020 23:40:04 GMT
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I tried a few hours ago to upload a 21kb file and the error message said the forum's limit had been reached. It's not just you.
And that Shenzhen converter looks like it should work!
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on Jan 4, 2020 4:55:51 GMT
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on Jan 4, 2020 9:12:43 GMT
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Okay... Now that I have service again... :) Here's the exact same adapter I have and use. It is absolutely universal, in that it can be used with any camera/flash combination to ensure that you can adapt without any concerns about what voltage your flash is, how many pins there are, what the pinout configuration is, who the flash manufacturer is, and then use on any digital or film camera... assuming you can make use of a 2 contact connection. That means no TTL, no in-viewfinder ready light or confirmation flasher, etc. These are essentially the same as the Wein Safe-Sync HSHSB/HSHS/HS adapters which are normally in the $50 range. If you have a flash that has a Thyristor type circuit, you'll still get an 'auto' flash mode that's close/similar to the effect of TTL. If you have an all manual Honeywell 'hammer' flash with 380 trigger volts, you can use it on a digital body. I'd confirm the upper voltage limit on the clones to make sure each manufacturer's adapter is safe enough. There is one slight advantage with several of the cheaper clones... The top hot-shoe contact on the adapter has a bit more clearance around the flash's pins so it's less likely to cause an accidental misfire. The Wein adapters (I have 2, and they work great) are a little beefier construction and have Mil-spec components and parts, so they will take a beating and probably last a bit longer. Also remember that you can add a coiled or straight flash cord for off-camera use, and/or wireless triggers. For my Nikon flashes, I've used both adapters with Yongnuo 622N triggers in auto or manual mode. I've also stacked adapters for off-camera use with a coiled SC-17/SC-28 cord in between the adapters/triggers. BTW... On the issue with attachments, there's a post on that here: yashica.boards.net/post/5232/thread
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on Jan 4, 2020 9:28:07 GMT
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The Tilt-a-Mite adaption is nice, but the Bay mount setups with springs (?) are great!
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on Jan 5, 2020 3:38:13 GMT
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The Tilt-a-Mite adaption is nice, but the Bay mount setups with springs (?) are great! Not springs, but the thread for the locking nut.
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on Jan 5, 2020 3:45:14 GMT
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Okay... Now that I have service again... Here's the exact same adapter I have and use. It is absolutely universal, in that it can be used with any camera/flash combination to ensure that you can adapt without any concerns about what voltage your flash is, how many pins there are, what the pinout configuration is, who the flash manufacturer is, and then use on any digital or film camera... assuming you can make use of a 2 contact connection. That means no TTL, no in-viewfinder ready light or confirmation flasher, etc. These are essentially the same as the Wein Safe-Sync HSHSB/HSHS/HS adapters which are normally in the $50 range. If you have a flash that has a Thyristor type circuit, you'll still get an 'auto' flash mode that's close/similar to the effect of TTL. If you have an all manual Honeywell 'hammer' flash with 380 trigger volts, you can use it on a digital body. I'd confirm the upper voltage limit on the clones to make sure each manufacturer's adapter is safe enough. There is one slight advantage with several of the cheaper clones... The top hot-shoe contact on the adapter has a bit more clearance around the flash's pins so it's less likely to cause an accidental misfire. The Wein adapters (I have 2, and they work great) are a little beefier construction and have Mil-spec components and parts, so they will take a beating and probably last a bit longer. Also remember that you can add a coiled or straight flash cord for off-camera use, and/or wireless triggers. For my Nikon flashes, I've used both adapters with Yongnuo 622N triggers in auto or manual mode. I've also stacked adapters for off-camera use with a coiled SC-17/SC-28 cord in between the adapters/triggers. BTW... On the issue with attachments, there's a post on that here: yashica.boards.net/post/5232/threadThat adapter you use is still a hot shoe-to-hot shoe type, not a cold shoe-to-hot shoe like kai is hunting for. There will be issues with that center pin.
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on Jan 5, 2020 4:46:14 GMT
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PF
I already have one of this vintage hot shoe and it's not working. There is no provision for the lock pin that come with the Nikon SB400 and as such will not fire the flash.
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on Jan 6, 2020 20:45:34 GMT
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Sorry all... I read the line in the original post mentioning the Canon flash and the adapter with a PC cable, and assumed that referred to a simple cold shoe adapter - and - it would still be part of any solution. I didn't mean to imply any other adapter would be a complete solution on its own. If that was a bad assumption, then yes, there's at least one more piece needed. Here's the setup that I use to solve the issues involved with Nikon flashes - and especially in this scenario with the SB-800 not being a light flash to hang off of a flimsy stack of adapters, I added a SC-29 coiled cable. It fits the purpose and it keeps it fully compatible to the Nikon flash mount AND it's fully 'wired' for use on actual Nikon's too. Any Nikon 'SC' cable or generic off-camera cord will work for Nikon flash use in this case, but be aware that many of the cheapies only have 2 wires connected and won't offer TTL or confirmations in any setup. I tried this using a little SB-10 directly in the shoe stack, and I wasn't exactly oozing with confidence while handling it. An SB-400 might be light weight enough to dangle off these adapters, but I'd hesitate to use it for extended periods or in a 'busy' environment on a cold shoe that will only get a bite on 2/3rds the adapter's foot, at best. The stop-pin on cold shoes usually gets in the way of pushing anything all the way into the slot. Forgive me using the Mamiya C2 under repair as a stand-in, but the PC Sync socket on the 180mm is on the same top/side as the shoe making it easier to show the whole wire-flow in one photo. The cold shoe adapter isolates any physical connections and has no 'hot' center pin on the base ( $5-15, on eBay). The Safe Convertor handles both the voltage protection and in nullifying any multi-pin issues from any flash manufacturer (assuming it uses a standard Pin/Plate shoe type), and it has the correct lock pin hole that Nikon/Canon/Etc. use, plus an additional PC sync connector (pass through to other flashes or strobes), and a test button for the installed battery ( CR-2016). The Wein versions may or may not have lock-pin holes, depending on how old they are, and which one of the 4 models it is. Lastly... I got 2 of the cold shoe adapters with attached 10-12 inch cords a few years back, and they're a good length for most cameras, and I don't have to carry (and/or lose) separate PC sync cords.
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on Jan 9, 2020 4:07:22 GMT
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