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on Feb 2, 2019 2:24:39 GMT
Last Edit: Feb 2, 2019 2:31:53 GMT by walterfx3
Recently I bought 2 of these cameras both with some shutter issues I will describe shortly. First I would like to know if there is a repair manual online specifically for these model? I have been unable to find one. Currently, I can only find for the FX3 and FX7. I assume that the super 2000 having a higher top shutter speed would change the internal mechanism? that is why I wanted to find a repair manual for it.
That being said these are the 2 issues I have.
Camera A: All shutter speeds work fine except for B (bulb) when set in bulb, mirror and shutter will trigger but will get stuck when releasing the shutter button. (Edit, none of this have mirror slip issue, so we can rule out the lens preventing the mirror to return to original position) They return to original position when top dial is returned to 1 Second. Camera continues to work fine on all shutter speed except B , its always the same behavior described. Side note. I am not sure if this is normal but I can't rotate dial from B to 2000. But I can rotate from 2000 to B with no issues.
Camera B: All shutter speeds are out of sync. When set to B out of 10 times, 5 times the shutter and mirror sound as if speed was set to 1/30 . 4 times will sound as 1 second. And rarely bulb will work as intended, but eventually fails again and does the 1/30 and 1 second.
This happens with all shutter speed they are out of sync.
I wanted to open up both and compare them at the same time to see if I can figure this out. But there is lack of videos and instructions on how to take it apart. Any documentation you could provide is appreciated!
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on Feb 2, 2019 11:46:08 GMT
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Hi Walter, The manual for the FX-3 is fine to use for the Super 2000. The only difference is in the shutter itself and that difference is minor as far as servicing is concerned. In fact, the shutter in the FX-3 has a position for the 1/2000 speed but it's not click stopped. Camera A: When the shutter is in B mode, the shutter should be closed by the action of the release button returning to its normal position (just stating the obvious here). This happens by the rod that is under the release button connecting with a lever on the shutter to trigger the closing. It sounds like either the rod has become out of place or the small protrusion on it that connects to the lever is broken off. Here's a picture of the shutter which shows the B lever that the release rod should connect to. I'm sure if you get the covers off the reason this isn't working will be obvious.  It's normal to not be able to rotate the speed dial from B to 1/2000 though I think it might be possible sometimes. I mean, there's nothing specifically stopping it but the design of the shutter just makes it difficult. Camera B: This is less obvious. If the speed was consistent, though wrong, I would say the the speed dial had been assembled incorrectly. But if the speed you get varies, then this sounds more like a shutter problem. You might have a look at this thread over on RFF where I described the speed adjustment of a Nikon FM2 shutter. The shutter is basically the same as that used in the FX-3 so everything applies to that as well. Once you get the covers off and watch what is happening the problem might be obvious. www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155378Hope that helps. |
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on Feb 2, 2019 20:56:13 GMT
Posted: Feb 2, 2019 20:56:13 GMT
Hi Peterr, You are awesome! thank you for your quick reply. I will definitely try this when I have some spare time. I was feeling hopeless, but not anymore. I appreciate your time. Hopefully I can report back on this thread once I fix these two cameras. Just one little detail I missed out is that on camera B, I can rotate the dial from B to 2000 and viceversa just fine with no issues. I am thinking maybe something is broken inside on Camera A in regards to that. Thanks again! Cheers. Hi Walter, The manual for the FX-3 is fine to use for the Super 2000. The only difference is in the shutter itself and that difference is minor as far as servicing is concerned. In fact, the shutter in the FX-3 has a position for the 1/2000 speed but it's not click stopped. Camera A: When the shutter is in B mode, the shutter should be closed by the action of the release button returning to its normal position (just stating the obvious here). This happens by the rod that is under the release button connecting with a lever on the shutter to trigger the closing. It sounds like either the rod has become out of place or the small protrusion on it that connects to the lever is broken off. Here's a picture of the shutter which shows the B lever that the release rod should connect to. I'm sure if you get the covers off the reason this isn't working will be obvious. It's normal to not be able to rotate the speed dial from B to 1/2000 though I think it might be possible sometimes. I mean, there's nothing specifically stopping it but the design of the shutter just makes it difficult. Camera B: This is less obvious. If the speed was consistent, though wrong, I would say the the speed dial had been assembled incorrectly. But if the speed you get varies, then this sounds more like a shutter problem. You might have a look at this thread over on RFF where I described the speed adjustment of a Nikon FM2 shutter. The shutter is basically the same as that used in the FX-3 so everything applies to that as well. Once you get the covers off and watch what is happening the problem might be obvious. www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155378Hope that helps. |
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on Feb 2, 2019 21:45:18 GMT
Posted: Feb 2, 2019 21:45:18 GMT
Just one little detail I missed out is that on camera B, I can rotate the dial from B to 2000 and viceversa just fine with no issues. I am thinking maybe something is broken inside on Camera A in regards to that. I've found it's possible on some cameras and not others. There's no particular reason why you shouldn't be able to do it but some shutters just seem difficult to go from B to 1/2000. Maybe you'll find something when you get inside. |
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