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on Sept 7, 2022 20:52:33 GMT
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Is there a list somewhere of the Yashica cameras that used the Leica 39mm screw mount?
Also, did Yashica (or anyone else) make any rangefinder/viewfinder cameras using the M42 thread? I know, they don't exist -- and I could always use a Leica L39 screw / 42mm adapter to use 42mm lenses on a Leica.
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on Sept 7, 2022 21:38:21 GMT
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I think the only Leica threaded Yashica branded models were the YE and YF. I wouldn't count any of the Nicca bodies, or Zunow, who didn't make 35mm bodies once they acquired both companies, as I don't think the Nicca's were still in production and 'officially' (i.e., publicly admitted) rebranded under the Yashica banner. AFAIK, they both made there way into the YE and YF in some regard as design elements or patented contributors. Even that is debatable on the newer and yet unreleased Nicca line at the time, and what turned out to be the YF. There's a suggestion that there was a quick retooling on the molded-in brand/model badges, and the YF was essentially the new Nicca model they'd yet to release. If by M42 rangefinders you mean something along the lines of the interchangeable lens capability of the Leica CL, or the Hexar style of crossovers as a compliment to the fixed-lens Electro line... none that I'm aware of, but I'd love to see one/some if they exist. EDIT: According to a very old tread on the FredMiranda forum suggests that M42 and true rangefinders aren't possible, with the vastly different registration distances at play... www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/355003
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on Sept 19, 2022 6:33:13 GMT
Posted: Sept 19, 2022 6:33:13 GMT
Only the Yashica YE and YF had the LTM mount as they were rebadged Nicca cameras. After those two cameras Yashica switched to the fixed mount models (first with the Yashica 35). As for M42 lenses, the original Zenit camera (Take a Zorki and slap a mirror box on it) had M39 threads, but because there were so many instances of folks mounting their rangefinder lenses on the Zenit they later on switched to M42. The larger mount also allowed for better designed lenses to cover the image circle, sort of what Nikon did with the Z mount.
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on Nov 7, 2022 16:40:45 GMT
Posted: Nov 7, 2022 16:40:45 GMT
Here's a follow-up on my earlier post. The only Yashica interchangeable lens rangefinder cameras that were produced were rebadged versions of the Nicca Type 33 (Yashica YE) a Barnack design with improvements (lever winding, better viewfinder, more ergonomic shutter release placement), and the Type 3L (Yashica YF) which while still having the M39 lens mount incorporated many features of the Leica M3 with a shorter rangefinder distance, and placement of the single stroke lever winder below the top cover. You can read about all the Nicca models plus the YE and YF at www.canonrangefinder.org/Nicca_Cameras.htmHere are my YE and YF models which I've been trying to put together since 2011 when I purchased my first YF (it turned out to be a constructive loss in the long run). I then purchased the Yashikor 50/2.8 but found out that was the standard lens for the YE, while the YF was supposed to have the Yashinon/Super Yashinon 50/1.8. I then replaced the first YF with a second one which worked just fine until I went to load the first roll of film, and the shutter broke while I was dry firing it. Everything was then put on hold while I pursued other cameras, until I eventually decided to complete the pairing. I ordered the 50/1.8 and a YE body last month and now have a lovely pair of LTM cameras that I hope to get some use out of (after the YF comes back from repair). End of the Line by P F McFarland, on Flickr I used to see other Yashikor/Yashinon lenses in LTM but that was long ago. Don't know if I'll try to get any as I have plenty of other LTM lenses to use, so these will likely be my last Yashica purchases. PF
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on Nov 7, 2022 22:55:11 GMT
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Now that you've got me thinking about the lenses, PF... you bring up and excellent point about what lens was the 'kit' lens, for which body... and additionally, what L39 screw mount lenses came branded as Yashica. There are not a lot of Yashica branded options, of course, and now I'm wondering if there were any other types beyond just the standard 50mm/5.0cm lenses.The rangefinder brochure posted by Paul Sokk on his YE/YF page at yashicatlr.com is in Japanese, so other than the focal length and speed numbers, I can't tell for sure what the extra lenses really were and who made them. Unfortunately I can't read it to translate what it might say either. My YF came with a 5cm f/1.8 standard Yashinon, but I have no way of knowing if it was original to that camera or even the default kit lens, and beyond your photo, I've also seen several others showing YF's with the Super-Yashinon 5.cm f/1.8 as well. The brochure above, and the Pentamatic brochure with the 'Yashica Fairway' (YF) and YE on the obverse side aren't clearly showing the full ring on the YF's lens, so they aren't any help either, but at least the 2nd/Pentamatic brochure does show the Yashikor 5cm f/2.8 mounted on the YE. Since the YE I acquired had no lens at all, I temporarily paired it with a Canon 35mm f/2.8 and a Tewe Polyfocus viewfinder for its debut portrait. Has anyone come across any Yashica branded wide or tele lenses in L39 that might match up to those shown in the brochures? EDIT: Camerpedia mentions there's also a 100mm (or, 10cm?) f/2.8 Super-Yashinon. There's one currently up for sale at €295, posted here... wide-angle.nl/shop/super-yashinon-10-cm-2-8-l39-for-yf-camera/
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on Nov 8, 2022 3:48:41 GMT
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Now that you've got me thinking about the lenses, PF... you bring up and excellent point about what lens was the 'kit' lens, for which body... and additionally, what L39 screw mount lenses came branded as Yashica. There are not a lot of Yashica branded options, of course, and now I'm wondering if there were any other types beyond just the standard 50mm/5.0cm lenses.The rangefinder brochure posted by Paul Sokk on his YE/YF page at yashicatlr.com is in Japanese, so other than the focal length and speed numbers, I can't tell for sure what the extra lenses really were and who made them. Unfortunately I can't read it to translate what it might say either. My YF came with a 5cm f/1.8 standard Yashinon, but I have no way of knowing if it was original to that camera or even the default kit lens, and beyond your photo, I've also seen several others showing YF's with the Super-Yashinon 5.cm f/1.8 as well. The brochure above, and the Pentamatic brochure with the 'Yashica Fairway' (YF) and YE on the obverse side aren't clearly showing the full ring on the YF's lens, so they aren't any help either, but at least the 2nd/Pentamatic brochure does show the Yashikor 5cm f/2.8 mounted on the YE. Since the YE I acquired had no lens at all, I temporarily paired it with a Canon 35mm f/2.8 and a Tewe Polyfocus viewfinder for its debut portrait. Has anyone come across any Yashica branded wide or tele lenses in L39 that might match up to those shown in the brochures? EDIT: Camerpedia mentions there's also a 100mm (or, 10cm?) f/2.8 Super-Yashinon. There's one currently up for sale at €295, posted here... wide-angle.nl/shop/super-yashinon-10-cm-2-8-l39-for-yf-camera/It appears the Super-Yashinon was a later marketing stunt and only involved adding "Super" to the name plate. I do remember seeing Yashica branded 35mm and 100mm lenses before, but they are really scarce now. There is a YF three lens kit on eBay which has along with the Yashinon 50/1.8 the W.Acall 35/3.5 and the Super-Acall 135/3.5 which would be as close as you could get to the original lenses. You can't go wrong with either. EDIT: Made a search for Yashinon 35mm and 100mm and only came up with one of the tele, and it was BIN at $1000. Good thing I already own a Canon 100mm. EDIT#2: Couldn't pass on that Super-Yashinon 10cm f2.8. So now I guess the Canon is a spare. PF
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on Nov 8, 2022 22:41:45 GMT
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I've been quietly adding LTM lenses over the last few years when they show up at reasonable prices, including the 35mm and 135mm Acall's, and both were worth the wait. The same for the Canon 105 and 135, in both versions. The Acall's shape in silhouette struck me as possible candidates in matching those shown in Pauls posted brochure, although it's hard to determine from the photos if they are all black or the two-toned black and chrome like the Acall models usually are. They would seem to be a logical brand choice if what were actually being marketed were from another maker, or even as the OEM source for Yashica rebranding, and from Paul's auxiliary lens notes on YE/YF, that certainly looks to be the case for the 135mm. At the very least, it shows there were some Yashica branded add-on prime lenses, but it might take some time to locate all of them as rebrands. Congrats on the Yashinon 100mm too... It was oh so tempting, and if I hadn't grabbed something equally as pricey earlier in the week, I might have jumped on it myself. Glad to see it went to a good home! This is typical of what I often find for LTM/L39 lens listings, where they are long in numbers, but may be off a bit in completeness or accuracy... leicafinder.com/#YASHICAThe same list only has 2 versions of the wider 35mm Kyoei (Acall), and nothing from the tele end of the range, but a search turned up some interesting posts on several Kyoei/Acall models, like this one for the 250mm f/4 (in Exakta mount - rebranded as a Tekkor), and this one for the 180mm f/3.5, but in M42.
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on Nov 10, 2022 5:25:18 GMT
Posted: Nov 10, 2022 5:25:18 GMT
I was looking to maybe add a Canon 35/2.5 since the body style is very similar to the Yashica 50's but kept seeing that "Light Haze" in the descriptions besides finding a lot of them with fungus and balsam separation, so I switched to looking for anything 35mm in LTM. Most anything that wasn't Canon was pretty much out of my range of pricing except for the Nikkors. I settled on a W · C 35/3.5 second version (also called "Black Belt" because the second body ring is black while the rest of the lens is chrome) which includes both caps and the leather case and has a threaded filter ring. I've already got the finder from my S2 kit to use on the YE, just as long as I don't forget where it is when I go to use the S2.
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