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on Sept 20, 2021 18:46:16 GMT
Posted: Sept 20, 2021 18:46:16 GMT
This is the Carl Zeiss Jena 75-300mm f4.5-5.6 Macro zoom lens attached to a Yashica 300 AF camera. CZJ AF 75-300 MacroI think only Sigma and CZJ marketed independent lenses for Yashica's 35mm SLR AF system. Although a CZJ lens, it was made in Japan (possibly by Sigma?). I was not expecting much from this lens but it's performance from 75-200mm is exceptional; it softens only a little after that. It's pretty quiet too; AF performance with the 300 AF is speedy - even in slightly below average light. I am enjoying using it which has been a real bonus. And it only cost me a tenner!
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on Sept 20, 2021 19:51:33 GMT
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I was not expecting much from this lens but it's performance from 75-200mm is exceptional; ... It must have something to do with the "Super" labeling on the barrel. :) A few forum posts elsewhere do seem to confirm your suspicion that it's made by Sigma, and I think it makes perfect sense why they'd make it in Yashica AF, since they already had the experience and tooling to make it a no-brainer choice as another mount for an AF lens made in the 90's. There's a particularly long thread on photo.net that pretty much cements them as the likely maker, and one posting noted a marking on the barrel, as " LENS IN JAPAN UNDER LICENSE FROM VEB CARL ZIESS JENA", and there's also a Sigma branded version with enough visual cues to call it a twin. It bears an "APO" marking, suggesting there's some 'special sauce' in the optics too. One individual post by 'rob_h|3' gives specifics on what mounts these were available for, if anyone would prefer to jump into the meat of the topic, and immediately before that post, he shows the brochure pages where presumably the details came from. Something slightly related pops to mind while on the subject... the Yashica C/Y to AF adapter does a really good job of adapting the manual Zeiss and Yashica lenses to the AF bodies, so there's an alternative path to using other 3rd party prime or zoom lenses, although strictly speaking, they aren't exactly a normal 3rd party supplier in this case.
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on Sept 21, 2021 9:51:57 GMT
Posted: Sept 21, 2021 9:51:57 GMT
Hi lumiworxThank you for the link to the review of the Sigma lens. You are right - it looks like the CZJ's twin, albeit without the APO designation. Interestingly, the colour generated on the front coating is blue on the CZJ unlike the Sigma. I wonder what the differential in price of the two lenses was? I need to check if Sigma marketed their version of the early 75-300 in the YAF mount (the link in their museum website takes you to the wrong lens); if so and it was more costly, then it may be that despite identical optical formulae, CZJ may have opted for a non-APO element but specified a proprietary coating. They both look very different to Yashica's own 75-300 f4.5-5.6 even though I wouldn't bet against Sigma having manufactured it...
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on Sept 21, 2021 19:57:58 GMT
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Hi lumiworx ... They both look very different to Yashica's own 75-300 f4.5-5.6 even though I wouldn't bet against Sigma having manufactured it... It probably wouldn't be the first time that someone may have been a contract supplier under 3 brands, and produced essentially the same lens for every one of them. Three bites at the apple, may not leave much more than the core. [TM, by me, if anybody's gonna quote that! :)] If the CSJ doesn't have any APO marks, does that mean it has no special glass elements inside, or just no marking to announce it/them?
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on Sept 22, 2021 2:08:42 GMT
Posted: Sept 22, 2021 2:08:42 GMT
Hi lumiworx ... They both look very different to Yashica's own 75-300 f4.5-5.6 even though I wouldn't bet against Sigma having manufactured it... If the CSJ doesn't have any APO marks, does that mean it has no special glass elements inside, or just no marking to announce it/them? I don't know the answer to that as I don't have any information on the lens. I'm wondering if the 'SUPER' in the lens designation may be an indicator of something special on the inside. Certainly, its image quality (particularly from 75-200mm) suggests that there is some interesting glass in there; it's rare to have no CA visible which is something one can't say of the Yashica-branded lens. I just spotted a really nice C/Y mount CZJ 75-300 f4.5-5.6 Jenazoom on Ebay and have also discovered that the Jenazoom range was developed at the behest of CZJ UK in the 1980s with quality control assured by Carl Zeiss Jena technicians operating at Sigma's facility in Japan. I wonder if the same applied to this slightly later AF Jenazoom Super lens... I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for a CZJ catalogue or brochure from the mid-1980s to late 1990s to see if I can find any substantial details about this intriguing range of lenses. I have a 70-210 f2.8-4 MC Macro Jenazoom II in C/Y mount which is a stunner of a lens. If they are all as good as these ones, I'll grab some more as they're not very costly.
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on Jul 9, 2022 0:38:42 GMT
Posted: Jul 9, 2022 0:38:42 GMT
Hi lumiworx Thank you for the link to the review of the Sigma lens. You are right - it looks like the CZJ's twin, albeit without the APO designation. Interestingly, the colour generated on the front coating is blue on the CZJ unlike the Sigma. I wonder what the differential in price of the two lenses was? I need to check if Sigma marketed their version of the early 75-300 in the YAF mount (the link in their museum website takes you to the wrong lens); if so and it was more costly, then it may be that despite identical optical formulae, CZJ may have opted for a non-APO element but specified a proprietary coating. They both look very different to Yashica's own 75-300 f4.5-5.6 even though I wouldn't bet against Sigma having manufactured it... just tested Zeiss Sonnar 200/3.5 with the AF adapter but on 230 AF. remember there is lightloss. in shadow or nonlit area with less contrast AF nonworking. EOS worked. maybe on 300 AF it will work better. instruction is telling which lenses are adviced to adapt. up to f 2.8 135/2.8 is largest adviced with AF-adapter. i think 1 1/2 stops losing.
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on Jul 9, 2022 0:39:37 GMT
Posted: Jul 9, 2022 0:39:37 GMT
Sigma also has made some MM-zoomlenses. i have it in prospectus.
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on Jul 9, 2022 8:44:15 GMT
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Sigma also has made some MM-zoomlenses. i have it in prospectus. Hi. They certainly did make a few in addition to some primes, such as the lovely 24mm Super-Wide MkII and 400mm f5.6 in both APO and non-APO versions. And of course, with your Yashica AF cameras, the Sigma 400mm f5.6 AF is a fine performer too.
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on Jul 9, 2022 14:23:39 GMT
Posted: Jul 9, 2022 14:23:39 GMT
Yes, that's definitely a SIGMA. I've got three of these -- Sigma, Quantaray, and Tamron. They all look the same to me.
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on Jul 26, 2023 9:16:08 GMT
Posted: Jul 26, 2023 9:16:08 GMT
So called Carl Zeiss Jena Zoom lenses from the 80's have been usually made by Sigma.
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on Nov 15, 2023 23:40:19 GMT
Posted: Nov 15, 2023 23:40:19 GMT
there are restrictions of using zeiss lenses with the AF 1.6x adapter. check camera manuals here 230AF.i wasnt satisfied when compared with EOS. using dandelion lushnikov chip. the best one. some zeiss i will convert by leitax EF-mount. same for OM to EF.
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