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on Jul 19, 2021 19:33:58 GMT
Posted: Jul 19, 2021 19:33:58 GMT
Usually I don't like to 'count my chickens' until I actually have them in front of me, but I'd like to get a head start on this one instead of just waiting patiently. I was the winning bidder on one of the two Swiss Air Force 137MD 'Handkamera' models recently up for sale or auction, and at the very least, I'd like to do a cosmetic restoration where possible. I'd like to ask about some peculiar things I noticed, and if someone might be able to offer a clue on whether my guesses are correct. Sorry if anyone here was the 1st bidder, but I'll try to do right by the history it holds. Here's a link to a public folder, containing all the sellers photos of the particular camera that's currently enroute from Finland, plus a couple of PDF files that are reference materials - 1 found online, and 1 I'd created from a blog article about one of it's siblings - and the original text from the seller's description. The blog PDF is HUGE with the original sized photos, so if you'd rather skip the download and view the article, it's here... www.cyberphoto.se/captains-log/viggenkameranThe photos should illustrate the questions I have about 2 seperate oddities they show. On the film back - where the film box flap holder would normally be - there's a black plate that's roughly the same size as a holder is, that fills the middle space from top to bottom. It has 5 'dots' in the same pattern as the #5 face on a pair of gaming dice would have, and looks like they're the bare/polished metal ends of 5 recessed rivets. The entire plate isn't something I've seen before, and could benefit from a few more sets of eyes to see if it's common on anything else, and what purpose it may serve. Given that these cameras aren't used in the way one normally would be, with a standard case and/or neck strap, I'm guessing the plate might have something to do with storage in some kind of slide-in/clip-on something or other that would secure the camera in the cockpit until needed. I'm not a pilot, so I've no clue what it could be used for. Also... on the lens and body, there are a several olive green splotches that I'm thinking might be an EU equivalent to either Red or Blue LocTite in the US, that's used as a threadlocker adhesive. It usually works in the same fashion that red enamel paint is used in camera lenses and bodies to keep things in a semi-permanent position, but with a solvent it can be easily removed to effect repairs, and then gets replaced. If these camera/lens setups were basically locked into only one focus point and shutter speed from the aftermarket company that modified them, could the green dabs of 'stuff' indicate that something was later altered and/or reinforced in the field -or- could the lens have been 'treated' when it replaced whatever lens was issued with it from the factory? The blog article concerns serial # SA 137, with a 100mm f/2 lens that had been focus-locked at infinity with a brass collar inside the lens barrel. The one on the way to me (ser# SA 130) has an 85mm f/2.8, and the B&W ad included by the seller seems to show a 50mm of some speed (I'd assume f/1.4), so it may be that the lenses could have been replaced after they were put into use. I'd assumed the lenses were also 'locked' into place with rubber plugs (like a Dental Eye has) instead of the normal lens release button, but I suppose those could be bypassed without much trouble if they were. I'm unsure what lens would have been the standard issue, if there was one, and whether the 85mm (or even the 120mm f/2) was retrofitted instead of the factory original XXmm they'd ship with. I've contacted SAAB AB to ask for their help with whatever information, documentation, or photos they might have. The 3rd party company that did the original modification (SATT TELEPRODUKTER AB ,in Stockholm) was acquired by Saab sometime after 1987, so I'm hoping there might still be some internal paperwork or training materials that someone tucked away in an archive somewhere, and they'd be willing to share any details they still have access to. Is there such a thing as a veterans organization in Sweden that pilots could be contacted through, to ask for some insight? I'll keep this updated as I get more details and have the camera in-hand, with more photos and observations.
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on Jul 20, 2021 10:15:36 GMT
Last Edit: Jul 20, 2021 10:18:17 GMT by biggles3
It will be interesting to hear from Saab if they still have access to the details of the Swedish Air Force mods. There is another Contax 137MA with a 'fixed focus' Zeiss 85 f2.8 currently for sale - it is from the seller of a recently auctioned SAF Contax/Zeiss modified camera & 85mm lens which might be the one you bought. Given that the seller has released 2 in quick succession, s/he may be a source of information too.
On the Contax 137MD SAF variant with serial number SA 032, that 'missing' central part of the back-plate is simply a blanked-off section where the film memo holder used to be. Also, although the sync socket is blanked-off, the hot shoe is still in situ, unaltered on the top plate but the connector has been removed making it a cold-shoe. That blanked-off hot shoe assembly with the alignment stripe on your camera is absent from the earlier models. The lens removal button is present but, as on your example, the aperture lever has been removed. This was one of the earliest SAF modifications being a 137MD and that can also be seen from the low serial number.
There is a much later Air Force modded Contax in the form of the ST with a Zeiss 50 f1.7 Planar that has been taped to provide a fixed aperture (f11) & focus. It uses the identical pistol-grip to the 137's. I don't think this was made for the Swedish Air Force - I think it was used by the Kommando Luftraumüberwachung of the Austrian Air Force. At least 34 were produced as that's the highest serial number I've seen.
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on Jul 20, 2021 18:28:33 GMT
Posted: Jul 20, 2021 18:28:33 GMT
Thanks for the details Graham, and yes this camera is one of the two from the same seller you noted. At some point he must have decided to auction one, and offer the other as a BIN sale via ebay. Based on photo appearance alone, this may be the better of the two in terms of cosmetic condition, and the difference in price asked for the BIN, and price paid on this one, may have made it the better deal too. Once it's delivered I'll reach out with questions, but I got the impression from the lack of info in the description provided in the listing there might not be much more to tell. Both of them were pretty much identical in terms of the text, and no mention of condition or working status.
Whenever there's a design or engineering change, my brain automatically switches into 'Why' mode, and I try to grasp what prompted the change, and if there was a practical or aesthetic reason for it. The film holder replacement seems to have been intentional, as if there was a purpose for the plate that replaced it. I'd assume that if it was a nuisance part that caught on something when stored in the cockpit, or it simply wasn't needed, it could have been removed entirely and had a new one-piece covering placed on the back. They don't alter the function of course, but the rewind lever was turned into a plain knurled knob, and both strap lugs are removed and covered, so presumably those were modified to accommodate whatever handling issues they presented in operating the camera.
Your mention of serial numbers and quantities got me thinking... there's only 3 numerical digits, and I'd assume the total would be no more than 999, which leads me to wonder if these were issued to the plane and not the pilot as his/her personal gear. Every pilot presumably gets their own helmet and flight suit/goggles/gloves, but the same may not apply with these.
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on Jul 20, 2021 18:53:31 GMT
Posted: Jul 20, 2021 18:53:31 GMT
The alteration of the rewind lever to the knurled knob makes perfect sense if you think of a pilot/observer who would have been wearing gloves. Imagine trying to lift that tiny metal lever, with kid leather on your fingers, in order to start rewinding... It would be interesting to know if the rewind clutch mechanism has also been removed on your 137MA as pushing that cover aside and depressing the button would have been nigh impossible for the same reason.
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on Jul 21, 2021 21:35:07 GMT
Posted: Jul 21, 2021 21:35:07 GMT
I'd totally agree on the idea that using gloves is definitely a challenge, and many of us who've worked cameras for a living in freezing cold climates knows how bitter that experience can be. :) I did notice the telltale signs of what looks like adhesive on the rewind cover swing outs on all these cameras, and I too am curious, but I also wonder if that's something a pilot/copilot would have to consider doing while flying. I have trouble picturing a pilot on an actual mission that's fumbling with film cartridges to reload a new one - gloves or otherwise. Not exactly what I'd want to see on the EU's version of 'America's Funniest Videos' TV show if s/he drops a cartridge.
... and yes... you're correct in noticing my terrible faux-pas on model #'s. SA 130 appears to be a Contax 137MA, and I should certainly know better.
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on Jul 22, 2021 10:27:50 GMT
Posted: Jul 22, 2021 10:27:50 GMT
One of the interesting elements of these cameras is the lens selection. The 85mm with its narrow angle and greater magnification reflects the interest of the Swedes back in the 1980s in Soviet naval activities and the provocations of Soviet bombers flying close to, or occasionally just inside, Swedish airspace; the 50mm on the ST with its wider angle and lower magnification suggests more concern for terrain or, possibly, very close encounters with Soviet aircraft.
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on Aug 2, 2021 21:24:04 GMT
Last Edit: Aug 2, 2021 21:41:19 GMT by lumiworx
After a long period of zero movement, it is finally here. I'll take a bit of time to do some initial cleanup before shooting some photos of it. In the meantime I can offer a few pieces of information on function.
A fresh set of AA batteries will get it into 'ready mode', without any need to flip a switch or push any lever or button. It's immediately armed to fire once the clip holder is popped into place, so it's a little startling to hear a quick motor advance to re-engage the rewind button. This confirms that the button is indeed accessible from the flip-out cover, and does exactly what it was designed to do once a roll of film is exhausted. It won't answer the question on whether cartridges were changed mid-flight by gloved hands - only that it would be possible.
This brings up the shutter functions, and how they're done. The regular shutter release button has been neutered and rendered useless. It can't be depressed at all, and is in a much lower position inside the cavity it normally resides in. I haven't any way of knowing if the entire contacts assembly was removed and the button cap was cemented in place, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. There's certainly no half-press or spriginess in it. The primary shutter trigger is literally the trigger on the attached pistol grip, and yes, there are 2 triggers, and not just one, where the other piece is a finger rest. Either can be pressed to trip the shutter, with the index finger's trigger at the front accepting inward pressure, and the horizontal angled piece is actually a lever that accepts downward pressure to do the same task. I can also add that the shutter is always in continuous firing mode, although a quick press of the pistol trigger(s) can get a single shot off without continued pressure. That explains the missing selection lever on what firing mode it runs in, as now there is only one mode.
Moving to the 3-way lever surrounding the now-useless shutter button that's ordinarily used for AE lock, battery testing, and the on/off switch - and - the Red/Green LED bulb next to it has changed. I haven't run film through it to test everything, but at first glance it looks like it's been modified to disable the AE lock function... that position is no longer selectable. Everything points to the idea that there's no longer any of the manual functions that would have been present on a 137MA. I'm guessing that the 3 FPS speed of the MA was important from an operational performance perspective, but the 137MD's 'Auto-Only' exposure capability was preferred for their purposes, and once again, that override functionality was neutered or outright removed since it wasn't wanted. The ring that normally has the ability to set any of the speeds for manual exposure choices under the rewind knob just spins on its axis, with no detents. With some effort, the ASA/ISO dial can be set to any of the usual film speeds, but aside from that, there seems to be nothing to allow for any type of manual overrides in the usual way. The LED does shift to Green when the lever is moved into the 'battery check' position, but once released it will instantly pop back into the 'On' position and switch to Red, so it seems pointless to have it work the way it does. There's one more caveat about being powered on from the moment the batteries are inserted... the camera seems to have a delay and the light goes out and goes into a quasi 'sleep mode'. One push of the trigger(s) will fire a shot or series of them off, and it lights the lamp again, so in this simplified sleep mode - only the LED goes out, and the delay has no effect on the power circuit.
The grip itself is attached to the bottom plate, and the battery clip is secured once the screw at the bottom of the grip is turned. The all metal grip has been wired to a 4 pin male connector on the inside of the bottom cover plate, and it mates to a 4 pin female connector attached inside the lower body cavity that holds the batteries. I'll test at some point to see if all 4 pins are used, or if both triggers are wired in parallel. I suppose it's possible that they could be independant, but it hardly seems necessary, unless I've missed something.
The article I'd mentioned earlier about camera # SA 137 and it's 100mm f/2 lens, shows that there's a brass inner collar that's responsible for locking its focus to infinity. At this point I'm unsure if the same has been done to SA 130, but there is evidence that the 'green paint' may indeed be some sort of dried liquid or paint that may have been used to do the same lock-up on the 85mm like Loctite does on screw threads. The aperture is also locked at f/8, and the aperture ring has the remnants of the same dried green spots... as does the UV filter and it's unique rubber-rimmed protection ring. The camera arrived with the lens separated from the body, and there was nothing in the way of a button or a plug in the release button's hole, so there's no way of knowing just yet how this particular camera was delivered for service from the company doing the modifications.
There are a couple of things that were obvious add-ons to the standard 137 Contax. One was pretty obvious from the seller's photos, and the other was obscured. The piece that's acting as the white aiming stripe is permanently attached into the hot shoe. It looks like it has a pin driven through it and into the 'meat' of the of the plastic portion of the shoe. To go along with that as the primary way of pointing the camera when in use, the other photos I've seen show that the viewfinders on these had been blocked somehow, and no TTL view was possible. Either this camera never had a plug of this type, or it's fallen out at some point. The view is unobscured, but the rear-most element is gone, so it's impossible to get clear focus. This may have been done for practical purposes, but the mirror is certainly still in place, and it functions as it should during firing. That suggests there was no tampering with the light path used in metering, and presumably means that any meter measurements and/or neutering work done was purely at the circuit level.
As for the piece that replaced the film memo holder on the film door... I can't really offer anything to explain what it is at this point. The 5 rivets don't match up to any holes on the pressure plate, and I don't have a spare 137 back that I can hack up to see if they are just filling the holes left after the original holder was removed, but that's what I'm guessing it might turn out to be. The holder may just have been a nuisance piece that could have hung up on something, and was simply removed to keep it from happening. Matching the back up to a 137MA, a 137MD, and even a CGCM (based on a 137), it shows the width and overall placement to be be nearly identical, with only the height taking up 100% of the same spot, splitting the leatherette into two pieces. (Much easier to refit a replacement cover, too)
After the few weeks since it's purchase, I haven't received any reply from anyone at Saab AB. I also sent a similar inquiry email to the Swedish Military's contact office a few days later - and no reply from them either. I may try to contact the author of the article about SA 137 and see if he can offer anything additional, but I have a feeling there will still be some unanswered questions without some official reply from either the Swedish Air Force - or someone in military procurement - or Saab. I plan on doing more investigating on the lens and some of the internals, and I'm toying with the idea of making the lens fully workable again - but - leaving the visible green spots in place to make them visual reminders of its historical past. That's not a certainty at this point, and I already have a wonderful set of 85mm Sonnars to use on-camera, so it wouldn't give me anything I'd be missing if it was 'fixed'.
So... cleanup, then photos to follow later.
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on Aug 5, 2021 0:08:16 GMT
Last Edit: Aug 5, 2021 0:15:51 GMT by lumiworx
It cleaned up really well, and other than one somewhat deep scratch on the backside of the body that's about an inch / 50mm long, the worst of the cosmetic issues lies in the flaking vinyl coverings we all love to hate. I've put in an order to Aki-Asahi for a replacement in the traditional 'Contax Cover in Black', so until it's here for installation, I'll post a couple of photos to show it as it is now. The grip that I thought was all metal may very well be partially or wholly made out of a very tough polycarbonate, but the machining over the entire handle certainly looks like it was done with metal-working tools, and not some molded-in process. The edges and 'point's are very crisp. The 2nd shot shows the detail on the inside of the body and battery covering baseplate, and shows the circuit tape making the connection from the buttons to the body, and the 4 pin contacts used on both pieces. I have to say that I'm truly impressed with the quality of the modifications. It's all been really well done. To fill in a few more details... There's no preview button or strap lugs, and no flash socket. They've all been filled with plastic plugs. Any text that would normally be visible to label functions (that no longer work) on either the speed dial or the mode switch surround on the top plate, have been overpainted with black. It's difficult to tell from these photos, but the camera doesn't sit square or at a right angle on the grip handle. It's tilted down a few degrees looking at the front, and also twisted back and to the left by a few more degrees in azimuth. I'm also surprised that the multicoated UV filter simply disappears in the 1st photo. I have to assume that the combination of the lens and filter being shot, and the Zeiss VS 35-70mm shooting it has somehow 'canceled it out'.
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