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on Apr 10, 2021 12:06:40 GMT
Posted: Apr 10, 2021 12:06:40 GMT
I'm not much into Yashica-branded digital cameras as the Contax compact models fulfill those needs but this one was of interest as I believe it was the final model designed under the Kyocera/Yashica marque in 2007, although not released until 2008, after the Yashica name had been acquired by the MF Jebsen Group: it is the EZ8032 Digital. EZ8032 DigitalIt's quite a nice little camera with a 8.2Mp sensor and a metal body. It has a 35-106mm f2.8-4.9 (35mm equivalent) optical zoom, plus a 5x digital zoom. It offers a 16 frame burst mode (VGA only) and anti-shake technology. It has a Macro facility that allows focusing from 10-50cms plus a variety of shooting and preset scene modes. Shutter speeds are from 8-1/1500 Sec. And if you forget your SD card, it has a 32Mb internal memory that can come to your rescue. It is pretty versatile and has a very busy 52-page User Manual. The one thing I can't find is a country of origin; it may have been referenced on the packaging but unfortunately the camera came without its box.
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on Apr 10, 2021 14:05:38 GMT
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on Apr 11, 2021 9:38:19 GMT
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I'm glad you put a question mark in the title of the topic, as this is such a difficult period to document. One interesting spanner in the works is the 2008 article below from Amateur Photographer (UK) magazine ... a highly respected publisher. www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/latest/photo-news/yashica-camera-brand-is-reborn-26493Frazer Allen, mentioned in the article, formed Alpha Digital Services after the demise of Kyocera Yashica UK in 2005, where he was KY's UK Sales Manager. If this information was supplied to Amateur Photographer from Frazer then you can bet that it is 100% right.
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on Apr 11, 2021 10:11:23 GMT
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on Apr 11, 2021 11:38:52 GMT
Last Edit: Apr 11, 2021 12:49:01 GMT by lumiworx: [pulled out the reply from the quoted section]
To continue ...... could one of these 2006 models be the last true Kyocera Yashica? They do have the Kyocera name on them ... It's a real possibility; I had not seen the AP article before. Very interesting. So JNC Datum Tech International was supplying the Yashica-branded cameras in 2008 and those (at least the EZ8032) were built to a decent quality unlike the more recent offerings which may destroy Yashica's reputation for ever. So who was making all those cameras marketed in 2006 and 2007? I know some were produced at the former Kyocera-owned facility in Brazil and there were some re-badged models being offered too. Models like the EZF5 or the unusual EZ UW5 which boasted a Yashica fixed lens and very limited underwater capability were part of the 'new' Yashica 2008 range but we'll need to grab one of the 2006/2007 models to see if a place of manufacture other than Brazil can be found. More expense ahead I fear...
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on Apr 11, 2021 12:11:18 GMT
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"So who was making all those cameras marketed in 2006 and 2007? I know some were produced at the former Kyocera-owned facility in Brazil and there were some re-badged models being offered too. Models like the EZF5 or the unusual EZ UW5 which boasted a Yashica fixed lens and very limited underwater capability were part of the 'new' Yashica 2008 range but we'll need to grab one of the 2006/2007 models to see if a place of manufacture other than Brazil can be found. More expense ahead I fear..."
A question I have often asked myself! I recently commented in another topic that around this time (possibly up to about 2004), there were series of digital cameras that had very similar design characteristics that suggested that they were a "true" series from Kyocera, but concurrently (or maybe just a little after) there were also several digital cameras that just seem to be one-offs or even short-series, but were physically unrelated in style to anything produced previously by Kyocera .... and seemingly unrelated to each other (with the odd exception)! This was even before MF Jebsen group came on the scene. And you are right about the similarity in those "odd" digital cameras to models sold in Brazil, or at the very least, a similar "randomness" in their design characteristics, just like the Brazilian digital models. We need an "insider" to spill the beans Just one more note I made to myself back in the early 2000's when I was "doing" my Yashica Family Tree Chart, I spotted that a lot of these odd digital camera models were (or seemed to be) only marketed in Australia, Italy & Czech republic. Another mystery to solve! Sorry about the extra expense Graham ......
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on Apr 11, 2021 14:04:04 GMT
Posted: Apr 11, 2021 14:04:04 GMT
"So who was making all those cameras marketed in 2006 and 2007? I know some were produced at the former Kyocera-owned facility in Brazil and there were some re-badged models being offered too. Models like the EZF5 or the unusual EZ UW5 which boasted a Yashica fixed lens and very limited underwater capability were part of the 'new' Yashica 2008 range but we'll need to grab one of the 2006/2007 models to see if a place of manufacture other than Brazil can be found. More expense ahead I fear..."
A question I have often asked myself! I recently commented in another topic that around this time (possibly up to about 2004), there were series of digital cameras that had very similar design characteristics that suggested that they were a "true" series from Kyocera, but concurrently (or maybe just a little after) there were also several digital cameras that just seem to be one-offs or even short-series, but were physically unrelated in style to anything produced previously by Kyocera .... and seemingly unrelated to each other (with the odd exception)! This was even before MF Jebsen group came on the scene. And you are right about the similarity in those "odd" digital cameras to models sold in Brazil, or at the very least, a similar "randomness" in their design characteristics, just like the Brazilian digital models. We need an "insider" to spill the beans Just one more note I made to myself back in the early 2000's when I was "doing" my Yashica Family Tree Chart, I spotted that a lot of these odd digital camera models were (or seemed to be) only marketed in Australia, Italy & Czech republic. Another mystery to solve! Sorry about the extra expense Graham ...... The story continues to confuse as the EZ Digital 6031 came in 2 versions - a Kyocera Yashica one as shown in your piccie and a Yashica-only model. My brain hurts...
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on Apr 11, 2021 14:31:20 GMT
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"Just one more note I made to myself back in the early 2000's when I was "doing" my Yashica Family Tree Chart, I spotted that a lot of these odd digital camera models were (or seemed to be) only marketed in Australia, Italy & Czech republic. Another mystery to solve!
I've seen the same odd thing happen. Without going into details, they deal with certain, select, oddly-named, Made in China cameras that, in one case seem to show up only in Brazil and France, and in another example, apparently were marketed in Argentina and Germany. And then there is one camera that can only be found in Singapore and Japan -- IF you can find one at all! Even though all of these cameras were made in China, you can't find them there -- which is the odd-cherry on top of this odd sundae.
Strange things happen in the world of marketing, for sure.
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on Apr 11, 2021 15:16:10 GMT
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The story continues to confuse as the EZ Digital 6031 came in 2 versions - a Kyocera Yashica one as shown in your piccie and a Yashica-only model. My brain hurts... So, is this the change-over camera then? Kyocera start selling it and MF Jebsen continue to sell it until sold out? Notice the "Innovate Digital" on the Yashica only version box .... isn't that MF Jebsen's strap-line? Of course, it doesn't stop there being other Kyocera camera models that came out at the same time (as in my earlier post) being sold under the two different companies ... so we may never find an absolute "last one"! Trying to figure this out nearly 15 years ago made my brain hurt too!
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on Apr 11, 2021 16:14:15 GMT
Posted: Apr 11, 2021 16:14:15 GMT
I've never been a fan of brain paralysis. Could I offer something that might help to clarify the production details? I'll create a new editable spreadsheet that fellow members can contribute information to (or edit/correct existing data), and we can compile some data in a managable manner as a group. It won't be editable by the public, so it can be protected from nonsense and spammers.
Once the data starts shaping up, I can do some reordering and cleanup to whatever is entered. I'd add some initial columns to be filled in for some of the obvious things, like production dates, factory locations, country distributions, 'manufacturer' (i.e., Jebson, Yashica, Kyocera, etc.).
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on Apr 11, 2021 16:57:59 GMT
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The story continues to confuse as the EZ Digital 6031 came in 2 versions - a Kyocera Yashica one as shown in your piccie and a Yashica-only model. My brain hurts... So, is this the change-over camera then? Kyocera start selling it and MF Jebsen continue to sell it until sold out? Notice the "Innovate Digital" on the Yashica only version box .... isn't that MF Jebsen's strap-line? Of course, it doesn't stop there being other Kyocera camera models that came out at the same time (as in my earlier post) being sold under the two different companies ... so we may never find an absolute "last one"! Trying to figure this out nearly 15 years ago made my brain hurt too! You are quite right about the Jebsen strap line on the Yashica version; definitely a cross-over camera and the best candidate yet. Your reference to trying to work all this out some 15 years ago - was that around the time that the superb ' YASHICA FAMILY TREE' chart was being compiled??? It would make an excellent starting point for lumiworx kind offer...
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on Apr 11, 2021 20:53:01 GMT
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Lumi - I'll definitely contribute to that spreadsheet whenever I can add something new or positive ... after all as time goes by I wonder what the point of gathering all that data was when I was an active member of the Contax Postal Portfolio Club (UK), unless I can pass it on Thanks biggles3 .... I am flattered by how you describe my attempt to form a graphical Contax and later, Yashica Family Tree which started as a crude attempt to produce a thumbnail pictorial camera history chart similar to what was available at the time for Canon and Nikon. Encouraged by the input and enthusiasm from David Grandison and then Frazer Allen of the UK's distributors of C/Y cameras, to get out there and meet the "users", their information laid the foundations to my research. Around about the year 2000 I first had a go at a Contax Family Tree using MS Publisher to add image and text boxes to form a Family Tree Chart. It grew beyond the information held by Photax and Kyocera Yashica UK, and involved contacting Contax and Yashica enthusiasts from all over the world. It also grew from a simple A4 format to A3 and then A2 etc, as more and more variations were added. Next was an attempt to do the same for Yashica around about 2003 onward ..... and that is where it started to get really difficult! People all over the world contributed to the chart sending their images of the variants and snippets of information to me. The chart soon became crowded with the myriad of models and colour variants that the chart underwent many layout changes as I tried to squeeze more and more cameras onto the chart. It expanded from A2 to A1 to AO and beyond! Even to this day, I still regard it as too cluttered compared to my original intention, as even the colour coding of sections (like TLR, SLR, AF, Compacts, Submins etc) does not fully enable a clear view of the various sections and relationships between models. I maintained it enthusiastically right up to the MF Jebsen era and then floundered to where I could go next or to where I should have drawn a line under it! Many of the contributors on this forum will appreciate the problem of naively trying to make a graphical Yashica Family Tree Chart when I didn't fully appreciate the true extent of the output of the great marque! It is a work in progress and probably contains many errors and omissions or at least some debateable data (e.g. I have used known preview dates where the models were shown at Photokina etc) ... and, of course is even today being corrected as data from this forum comes to light ..... (MANY, MANY thanks to all the contributors to this forum). Also, there are now several other sources of C/Y data on the internet that have gone into far greater depth than I ever could, and have a heritage of knowledge and enthusiasm that well exceeds mine! It's also difficult to distribute to interested parties as the native MS Publisher file is 27MB and the exported Jpeg is 6MB compressed, 100MB uncompressed! Also, to be able to see any meaningful images of the cameras on the chart, it would require at least an A0 printer ... not available to every C/Y enthusiast on this forum! And as an added problem, is being constantly updated every month nearly, as data comes to light (from this forum!). Some of my data has also been stored as spreadsheet data and maybe that is where I can contribute to a "group" database as Lumiworx suggested. I am open to suggestions to how I can best show the chart to interested parties, given the problems mentioned above Yashica Family Tree at approx 10% full size
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on Apr 11, 2021 23:40:39 GMT
Last Edit: Apr 12, 2021 5:02:51 GMT by lumiworx: [pulled out the reply from the quoted section]
Lumi - I'll definitely contribute to that spreadsheet whenever I can add something new or positive ... after all as time goes by I wonder what the point of gathering all that data was when I was an active member of the Contax Postal Portfolio Club (UK), unless I can pass it on Thanks biggles3 .... I am flattered by how you describe my attempt to form a graphical Contax and later, Yashica Family Tree which started as a crude attempt to produce a thumbnail pictorial camera history chart similar to what was available at the time for Canon and Nikon. Encouraged by the input and enthusiasm from David Grandison and then Frazer Allen of the UK's distributors of C/Y cameras, to get out there and meet the "users", their information laid the foundations to my research. Around about the year 2000 I first had a go at a Contax Family Tree using MS Publisher to add image and text boxes to form a Family Tree Chart. It grew beyond the information held by Photax and Kyocera Yashica UK, and involved contacting Contax and Yashica enthusiasts from all over the world. It also grew from a simple A4 format to A3 and then A2 etc, as more and more variations were added. Next was an attempt to do the same for Yashica around about 2003 onward ..... and that is where it started to get really difficult! People all over the world contributed to the chart sending their images of the variants and snippets of information to me. The chart soon became crowded with the myriad of models and colour variants that the chart underwent many layout changes as I tried to squeeze more and more cameras onto the chart. It expanded from A2 to A1 to AO and beyond! Even to this day, I still regard it as too cluttered compared to my original intention, as even the colour coding of sections (like TLR, SLR, AF, Compacts, Submins etc) does not fully enable a clear view of the various sections and relationships between models. I maintained it enthusiastically right up to the MF Jebsen era and then floundered to where I could go next or to where I should have drawn a line under it! Many of the contributors on this forum will appreciate the problem of naively trying to make a graphical Yashica Family Tree Chart when I didn't fully appreciate the true extent of the output of the great marque! It is a work in progress and probably contains many errors and omissions or at least some debateable data (e.g. I have used known preview dates where the models were shown at Photokina etc) ... and, of course is even today being corrected as data from this forum comes to light ..... (MANY, MANY thanks to all the contributors to this forum). Also, there are now several other sources of C/Y data on the internet that have gone into far greater depth than I ever could, and have a heritage of knowledge and enthusiasm that well exceeds mine! It's also difficult to distribute to interested parties as the native MS Publisher file is 27MB and the exported Jpeg is 6MB compressed, 100MB uncompressed! Also, to be able to see any meaningful images of the cameras on the chart, it would require at least an A0 printer ... not available to every C/Y enthusiast on this forum! And as an added problem, is being constantly updated every month nearly, as data comes to light (from this forum!). Some of my data has also been stored as spreadsheet data and maybe that is where I can contribute to a "group" database as Lumiworx suggested. Hi Bob, I can see the chart that I have differs from the one shown above: I assume the one shown here has the updates to which your refer. Sadly, as primarily a Contax user, I have never come across the Contax one and would be very interested to see it. I note that the Yashica Family Tree on my PC is 3.97Mb in size and the quality will allow expansion to A0 - I'm currently viewing at a 2459x5154 resolution and it's all perfectly legible. One thing you could consider is offering a printed version (A1/A0) for purchase by members of the Forum; I'd certainly buy one. And then it can be updated every year or two as further information comes to light. All you need is a not-too-costly local printer and some cardboard tubes for posting... It must have been a labour of love to compile this complex chart; I can see no reason why you should not be able to enjoy a financial return for all that hard work...
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on Apr 12, 2021 14:34:17 GMT
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Okay... I've created a basic spreadsheet online. In order to keep it protected I'll need to add anyone wanting to modify it as an editor to get you full access. For those who want to follow along and not make any modifications, I can also add you as a viewer. At some point we can make it fully public for anyone to view, without needing any invitations. For the moment, I'll assume that biggles3 and bobblehat and myself will be editing data, so if anyone else would like access, please send me a message through the forum and let me know if you'd like access as either an editor or a viewer.
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on Apr 12, 2021 15:51:41 GMT
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I'd like to a contributor -- as opposed to an editor or viewer. My knowledeg lies in the subminis (Minox, 110, 16mm), and half-frames.
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