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on Feb 3, 2021 14:34:24 GMT
Last Edit: Feb 4, 2021 23:20:01 GMT by biggles3
Given the age of C/Y gear and the absence of spare parts, it's always useful to have duplicates. This happy little bunch arrived last week: the legendary RTSIII, the lovely ML 50mm f1.4 and the Zeiss 28-85mm f3.3-4.0. RTS3_ML 50 1.4_Zeiss 28-85The camera remains a great piece of kit but it still saddens me to see how Kyocera failed to support it adequately with accessories. The one huge omission was a 250-back as enjoyed by the RTS and RTSII. The camera has a removable back but the manufacturer decided not to produce the one that was promised to those that were consulted on its specs. At just over 5fps, a film was finished in 7 seconds; as a sports photographer at the time, the combination of fast lenses, high shutter speeds (1/8000s) and that motor made it ideal to freeze action even in poor light BUT you would miss all the action unless you had 4 identical cameras and lenses plus an assistant to keep loading and unloading film... Not a practical, or affordable, proposition. But that 250-back was part of the initial proposal. The problem according to Kyocera was that it was technically too complex and expensive to produce a small number of bulk-backs with the vacuum-system and ceramic plate that was found in-camera. It was explained that a conventional plate (or just the ceramic plate as enjoyed by the ST) inside the bulk back would suffice and reduce the cost and complexity but they canned it all the same. So one of its most obvious target groups, given its specification, moved back to Nikon and Canon. In the end, the only alternative back was not even a Contax product but was the rather excellent and advanced NPC Forscher Polaroid back as produced for the previous RTS models. Such a wasted opportunity and a great pity.
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on Feb 4, 2021 12:16:04 GMT
Posted: Feb 4, 2021 12:16:04 GMT
I had a couple of RTSIII's and both had the same fault .... the vacuum ceramic plate scratched the film! If I remember correctly, 1 body was completely fixed FOC by Kyocera, but they couldn't seem to completely fix the 2nd. I have heard of other people having problems with the vacuum back, but not sure if it was a batch problem. Maybe Biggles and others could say if they have had any problems like this?
Excellent camera though! I only sold them in favour of the AX.
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on Feb 4, 2021 13:00:01 GMT
Posted: Feb 4, 2021 13:00:01 GMT
I had a couple of RTSIII's and both had the same fault .... the vacuum ceramic plate scratched the film! If I remember correctly, 1 body was completely fixed FOC by Kyocera, but they couldn't seem to completely fix the 2nd. I have heard of other people having problems with the vacuum back, but not sure if it was a batch problem. Maybe Biggles and others could say if they have had any problems like this? Excellent camera though! I only sold them in favour of the AX. Hi. Thankfully none of my RTSIIIs suffered from a dodgy plate though one of them developed a metering problem which the lads in Reading managed to get fixed. One I bought on Ebay from Italy was in a very sorry state but it was given a new lease of life by one of our members who was formerly a Kyocera engineer here in the UK It's worth remembering that the same ceramic plate is used in the ST, without the vacuum facility, and none of them has revealed any tendency to scratch film, thus far. I'm sorry you had problems with your RTSIIIs but the AX is a magical camera and a very worthy alternative to the big RTS. Although I'm a massive fan of the ST (it has a simple photographic purity to it that makes it a joy to use), the sheer versatility of the AX can't be rivalled by any other camera. And its bulk has never been an issue as it has such good ergonomics - and despite its size, it's lighter than the RTSIII.
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on Feb 5, 2021 10:17:19 GMT
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Looking back through my old notes, it seems it was a batch problem, and there are just a few references to the vacuum back scratching films if you search the net! I too had the ST, and had no problem with the ceramic plate in that model. The RTS III, ST and AX were all top notch camera bodies. I settled on the AX for its AF capabilities which worked really well, even with 3rd party lenses. Always had an FX3 super 2000 as a back-up though
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on Feb 5, 2021 13:07:28 GMT
Posted: Feb 5, 2021 13:07:28 GMT
...Always had an FX3 super 2000 as a back-up though It is interesting to see how many people was/is doing the same, meaning that deep inside we recognize the FX3 super 2000 as a good and reliable camera, to the point that we are willing to continue shooting with it as a replacement for the unavailable/broken main camera... So why not use it directly as a first choice? I am not trying to compare a RTSIII with a FX3, obviously the RTSIII is a spaceship compared with a Ford T like the FX3, but I wonder how many of those extra features people are really using or really need. Keeping in mind that more things the camera has, more possible points of failure. Just a thought...
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on Feb 5, 2021 23:37:39 GMT
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...Always had an FX3 super 2000 as a back-up though It is interesting to see how many people was/is doing the same, meaning that deep inside we recognize the FX3 super 2000 as a good and reliable camera, to the point that we are willing to continue shooting with it as a replacement for the unavailable/broken main camera... So why not use it directly as a first choice? I am not trying to compare a RTSIII with a FX3, obviously the RTSIII is a spaceship compared with a Ford T like the FX3, but I wonder how many of those extra features people are really using or really need. Keeping in mind that more things the camera has, more possible points of failure. Just a thought... ...but a good one.
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on Feb 6, 2021 12:20:07 GMT
Posted: Feb 6, 2021 12:20:07 GMT
I guess I like driving spaceships As Will Smith said in Independence Day "I gotta get me one of these!" ..... so I did (RTSIII/AX/ST etc etc)!
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